So Dan from Game Grumps (aged 42) is getting cancelled for supposed grooming. I don't want to say he's not a groomer, because theres stuff about other alleged behavior that isnt detailed at all in it.
But like the story presented is that a 17 year old fan started messaging him. He thanks her for her support and wishes her a happy birthday when she turns 18 about a month later. Then nothing is shown until the fans 22 and they exchange some cringey sexts. Then apparently they fuck and he breaks things off. And everyone's calling this grooming, but like, that's not what grooming is? I donno, it just feels like people really have been stretching definitions of things for the last year like with that Alex Morse thing to take advantage of cancel culture. And it seems like it only causes people to ignore victims who are actually groomed.
He gives me more “wannabe rock star fucking groupies” vibes then “groomer pedo” vibes tbh.
People should honestly know better either way, and by people I mean youtubers
Pretty sure rockstars fucked underage girls pretty regularly, so he's actually less creepy than a wannabe rock star from what we know.
...Is fucking groupies a form of exploitation ?
It can be, there’s definitely a power imbalance. But I would be hesitant to say every instance of someone hooking up with a celeb like that is exploitative in nature.
It's messy because I don't want to deny any agency to people who might just want to fuck someone they're attracted to and admire, but it can definitely be exploitative
Yeah, like I’m sure there are people who have and are fine and don’t regret it, so I can kind of understand Dan’s stupidity here, but he really should of known better even if it’s not “grooming”
Like it totally can be but at no point in the evidence shown was there any promise of using that power to help her out, and like he didn't surprise whip his dick out. He sent her that hilarious hot tub video first.
Hell, having sex with anyone without paying them is a form of wage theft.
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...Most sex work is a form of exploitation on both sides no i will not cede my time onlyfans is not praxis.
Wait, on both sides? That's a powerful take.
i blew 2000 on camgirls when i was depressed last year, it doesn't mix well with drinking and adds up.
Now that everything is commodified, any action you take that is not compensated is wage theft. That's why I stream my facecare routine on twitch, have a patreon for my cha cha posts and an only fans for my morning wank.
No, you see, my sex time is worth $x, and their sex time is worth $x, so in a two way consensual relationship, the wage cancels out. I could pay them $20 and they pay me $20, but we'd just be exchanging $20 bills.
No, that's authoritarian (or liberal?). You have to let the free market (or central economic commission?) decide how much each of yours sex times is worth and have the cheaper party pay the difference. If you don't do that someone is exploiting someone.
Wasn't that part of what caused all the issues with Pinegrove?