• Malikto [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    Yeah, it's shocking how much US government corruption feeds off of Ukraine. They're gathered like hogs at a trough.

    • scraeming [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I remember an episode some time back where Matt made a joke about Ukraine being the place where the failsons of the US/EU political elite go with their money buckets and just take a big scoop off the top.

      • Malikto [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        A while back they were seriously considering adding Ukraine to NATO. Insanity. They were trying to start a war. Still are.

        That's why Germany wants Nordstream 2. Economic engagement decreases the risk of war.

      • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I mean let's not ignore the material conditions of Russian resettlement in Ukraine. The history of Russian imperialism in the region unfortunately has a longer history than the length of the USSR. Russian chauvinists want their land, American chuavinists want in on the take. A rock and a hard place. Fuck the actual nazis in the Ukraine that the US supports, but if getting closer to the west means material protections from Russia can you blame the Ukrainians?

        • spectre [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          if getting closer to the west means material protections from Russia can you blame the Ukrainians?

          As always with these sorts of questions: "yeah, but also no"