Anno: "I don't hate Star Trek, but I'm not impressed by it. You can see the arrogance of America in it. It's a story of influencing or enlightening native peoples of destination planets, that features romance with their most admirable woman in a front-line way. I feel like this is American imperialism itself.

It's like Marxists are portrayed as being primitives. I can't get used to that kind of American worldview. I think the Enterprise is cool, but that's all."

庵野: 『スタートレック』は嫌いじゃないですけど、そんなにはまってはいないんです。なんかアメリカ人の傲慢さが見えててね。行く先の星々の原住民を感化していくというか啓蒙していく話や、最前線の基地では、そこの一番偉い女性とロマンスがある。もう、アメリカの帝国主義そのものという気がしてね。なんかこうマルクス主義の人たちが、原始的なものとして描かれてますよね。ああいうアメリカ的な世界観というのには、どうもなじめなくて。エンタープライズ号は、カッコいいと思うんですけどね。」

  • HarryLime [any]
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    4 years ago

    Ehhh, sort of. Star Trek is obviously limited by the fact that it's an American television show mostly coming from the era of a limited number of networks making everything, so of course it's going to have problematic viewpoints within it, and it definitely never outwardly tried to subvert the dominant narratives of American hegemony. But within those constraints, I think it's not a coincidence that a lot of lefties see its future as something to aspire to.

    Part of why NuTrek sucks so much now is because American capitalism has become so degraded that commercial art produced within it can't plausibly portray a future where anything is actually better.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Part of why NuTrek sucks so much now is because American capitalism has become so degraded that commercial art produced within it can’t plausibly portray a future where anything is actually better.

      Anyone know any good critiques -video or text -of NuTrek from a non-chud, leftist perspective? I don't feel like sifting through hundreds of videos of neckbeards saying its bad because of a cultural marxist anti-white agenda. Once saw a comment on Youtube where a guy just pointed out that many of the writers and producers of Picard were Jewish and left it at that :agony-deep:

      • HarryLime [any]
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        4 years ago

        Well, RLM's dives into NuTrek are good analyses of why it's bad, though they're certainly not leftists. The Plinkett review of Star Trek Picard is great, though you may want to also watch Mike and Rich go through the episodes.

        This thread from /r/DaystromInstitute gets into it from a bit more of a lefty political angle. One of the posters mentions Neoliberalism by name, so I guess look for that.

        • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          That thread was really good, thank you!

          (I of course have seen all of the RLM Star Trek videos a bunch of times already)

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Part of why NuTrek sucks so much now is because American capitalism has become so degraded that commercial art produced within it can’t plausibly portray a future where anything is actually better.

      The latest season of Discovery felt like an exercise in American exceptionalism in spaaaaaace!

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Lower Decks legit slaps. Disco is probably a good non Trek show and Picard is an atrocity. I thought I was going to hate LD but it seems like they sort of accidentally got trek right in an attempt to make it comedic. It's weirdly actually a good continuation of classic 90s era Trek

      • PrincessMagnificent [they/them, any]
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        4 years ago

        I wanted to like Discovery but they fucking opened up with "our swarthy fanatic enemies understand only one language, VIOLENCE" and I was out