Same as 2016

  • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They recently did an article on the "shy Trump voter" and concluded they don't really exist, even in 2016. Not in large enough numbers anyway, and it made sense to me, given that Trump overperformed polling in red states and underperformed his polling in blue ones, which is the opposite from what you'd expect if the shy voters did exist. They said the swing state polling errors in 2016 were largely due to failing to adjust for education, which many polls now do.

    • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Not unlike the "Bernie-to-Trump voter" myth that Hillary stans love to parrot. The phenomenon was nowhere near as widespread as the Blue MAGA crowd would lead you to believe, and it was mostly confined to open primary states where those voters weren't Democratic loyalists to begin with.

      • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I agree that polls should be getting better not worse, but 2016 did have a lot more undecided voters, especially compared to an election like 2012 where everyone basically had their mind made up already. On August 12th, 2016 the polls had Hillary beating Trump 45% to 38%, so 17% of voters were undecided or voting third party. Even on election night the number was still 12%. Compare that to this year where there's less than 9% third party/undecided voters at the moment.

        Trump won largely because he got all the Gary Johnson defects at the very last second, there's no similar big block of voters to count on this year in the same way.