• Gkalaitza [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Do we have any "non staged" pics that make them look bad tho. These are from a BBC doc . Even if they were watched over by China you would guess they would have find something worse than this

    • APriori [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      If these journalists had impromptu, unfettered access to the camps, then there might be an argument in there somewhere.

      • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Why would they ? I say that anything at even 1/10th of the scale and severity that is claimed was happening in the age of 2021, the fucking CIA and the everpresent western media system on a mission to manufacture consent would have terabytes of better things than pics of people in schools in normal clothing learning mandarin

          • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Did you just take the pic from the wikipedia "xinjiang camps" article? Also this is from a reform center/prison in China from 2017 listening to some speech. Xinjiang is huge in size. There do exist prisons in it. There is no evidence that this is some kind of concentration camp and that these people were put there for being Uyghurs. Yeah prisons suck but unless your point is that China has prisons/reform centers in Xinjiang and have the detainees attend some speech idk if that photo has any value in the situation. It was published in Chines media even. Its not some "leak". Also i dont wanna do phrenology but i do seem Han people there

          • Ceatnik [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            lmao

            Photos from Chinese media: propaganda, bullshit

            Testimonies from people in China: brainwashed, forced to say it, bullshit

            BBC, actively pushing anti-China narrative: So true!

            I'll wait until they produce an iota of evidence that there are 1 million Uyghurs in camps.

            • Ceatnik [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Anyone using that image as evidence of concentration camps has a paper-thin understanding of the situation. Maybe check the background of a photo before linking to the url with "brainwashing 1 million people" (lmao) in it. But anyways, I'm horrified that rehabilitation programs exist in China. I much prefer the humane American approach of brutalizing them, throwing them in a cell and telling them to go fuck themselves.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        4 years ago

        Except it doesnt fucking matter and it never has and IT NEVER WILL.

        Unfettered access is literally just a code word for "Increasing access and freedom to do as we please until we either find evidence or the abscence of evidence becomes evidence in itself". This is one of the classic propaganda tactics and it keeps being used successfully cause people still take western journalism in good faith despite them being bourgeoise propagandists.