So, in that event, is the idea to just hope that a revolution will break out instead?
Yeah, yeah organize too, but revolution is ultimately the desired final conclusion from said organizing, is it not?
Call me a doomer or whatever, but odds are that ain't gonna happen any time in the foreseeable future, things are gonna have to get way, waaayyy worse before it's even a realistic possibility imo.
Not to say organizing should be completely abandoned in favor of electoralism either, of course not, it just feels foolish to me to give up on either lane.
To me, it feels like the best course of action would be to pursue both at the same time until one or both leads to success. To increase our chances/odds by pursuing 2 avenues instead of putting all of our metaphorical eggs in one basket.
Basically I'm saying we should keep both options open instead of limiting our scope, and chances of success with it.
I guess you could say I'm a big-brained centrist on this issue.
I don’t disagree in principle, but looking how the pieces are arranged on the board right now (talking about the US), I don’t see much material gain for the proletariat to be had by engaging in electoral politics. The left wing bourgeois party just doubled down on centrist neoliberalism again, rather than make even the smallest concession to workers. Capturing the big parties is a dead end. If we’re talking about building a third party, honestly I think building a revolutionary party outside electoral politics is less of an ask and more likely to be effective at this point.
Not to mention that most if not all of the tangible gains made by the proletariat in the US have historically been won from industrial/militant struggle outside the bourgeois political apparatus. Advances that were then taken away by that same structure.