So, in that event, is the idea to just hope that a revolution will break out instead?

Yeah, yeah organize too, but revolution is ultimately the desired final conclusion from said organizing, is it not?

Call me a doomer or whatever, but odds are that ain't gonna happen any time in the foreseeable future, things are gonna have to get way, waaayyy worse before it's even a realistic possibility imo.

Not to say organizing should be completely abandoned in favor of electoralism either, of course not, it just feels foolish to me to give up on either lane.

To me, it feels like the best course of action would be to pursue both at the same time until one or both leads to success. To increase our chances/odds by pursuing 2 avenues instead of putting all of our metaphorical eggs in one basket.

Basically I'm saying we should keep both options open instead of limiting our scope, and chances of success with it.

I guess you could say I'm a big-brained centrist on this issue.

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
    1·
    4 years ago

    They're making a good point. I don't think abandoning the DSA is necessary really. It's an organization that we can actually do entryism in. It's something that's palatable to people who aren't class conscious yet and are just agitated. It's also heavily localised unlike the Democratic party. DSA chapters are in almost every city in America and can be used to quickly organize tons of people because they've already worked out some of the internal structure that's needed.

    PSL in my town works in conjunction with DSA and BLM, we're all united on one front right now and I think pulling people into these orgs (whichever you happen to be in) is important, because I see the peope in them working in solidarity utilizing the existing structure of the orgs for action and organization.

    So yeah, the DNC is a lost cause, but these newer orgs are still pretty loose. They aren't as linked to a national party and they are great as platforms for expanding influence.