I lurked and partook in those sites for quite a long time. They're what made me believe in instituationalised racism and ultimately led me from being a Ben Shapiro dickhead to a lefty.
You're not totally wrong. There's a lot of race science and stuff like that. A lot of the things they say recognise racism but then reinforce it rather than combatting it. I know for a fact that a lot of people there take an alt right turn rather than a leftwards one.
Stuff they identified quite well were things like eurocentric/aryan beauty standards and general racist stereotypes making it more difficult for POC to find partners than white people. A common phrase was 'whitecel is fakecel' - meaning that you can't be an incel if you're white because society gives you so many advantages. They also knew a lot about the indian racial caste system. 'Richcel is fakecel' is also common, as if you're rich you can have plastic surgery to look better, and you also have time and money that you can put towards 'looksmaxxing' (going to the gym, skincare, etc).
The problem is that while they acknowledge that systematic racism is real, they don't do anything to combat it and in fact perpetuate it by treating it like its just the natural order of things
Absolutely nothing I've ever seen from them suggests this is true. Incel enclaves are extremely reactionary echo chambers.
Those are not mutually exclusive. They can be fascists and also believe in systemic racism.
I lurked and partook in those sites for quite a long time. They're what made me believe in instituationalised racism and ultimately led me from being a Ben Shapiro dickhead to a lefty.
I stand corrected. I've spent 0 time there so I only have an outsider's perspective.
You're not totally wrong. There's a lot of race science and stuff like that. A lot of the things they say recognise racism but then reinforce it rather than combatting it. I know for a fact that a lot of people there take an alt right turn rather than a leftwards one.
Stuff they identified quite well were things like eurocentric/aryan beauty standards and general racist stereotypes making it more difficult for POC to find partners than white people. A common phrase was 'whitecel is fakecel' - meaning that you can't be an incel if you're white because society gives you so many advantages. They also knew a lot about the indian racial caste system. 'Richcel is fakecel' is also common, as if you're rich you can have plastic surgery to look better, and you also have time and money that you can put towards 'looksmaxxing' (going to the gym, skincare, etc).
The problem is that while they acknowledge that systematic racism is real, they don't do anything to combat it and in fact perpetuate it by treating it like its just the natural order of things
Yeah, exactly. Put it into words better than I did.