• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        vor 4 Jahren

        There's a kernel of truth about certain minority groups suffering disadvantage when trying to date outside their own groups, Indian men among them.

        That said, it has nothing to do with genetics and everything to do with mass media pushing nothing but white beauty standards, especially for men.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      ·
      vor 4 Jahren

      It's well known that nobody fucks in India. Thats why so few people live there.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    vor 4 Jahren

    a type of naturally occurring eugenics

    When you know what eugenics is but not evolution

    • StLangoustine [any]
      ·
      vor 4 Jahren

      "Naturally occurring eugenics" is how I'm going to describe evolution from now on.

  • VapeNoir [he/him]
    ·
    vor 4 Jahren

    What I don't get about incels is that they never square the circle that two people with their genes had sex and made them

  • budoguytenkaichi [he/him,they/them]
    ·
    vor 4 Jahren

    I feel like maybe there's something resembling a kernel of truth here, but, like all incel shit, it's buried under a mountain of bullshit.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
      ·
      vor 4 Jahren

      There is always a material truth somewhere in popular lies, otherwise nobody would believe them. Breaking down conservative and reactionary thought through a materialist lens can be very enlightening.

  • vorenza [any]
    ·
    vor 4 Jahren

    Somebody please explain to me how feminists are regarded as "anti-science post-modern bullshit peddlers" by the dark web james lindsay types while this exists?

    I mean i know the answer, but still

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
      ·
      vor 4 Jahren

      Holy christ that's somehow worse than I expected.

      1.10 Male gang members have dramatically more female sexual partners

      I have no idea what this is supposed to "prove", also the study they cite seems to have sample size of...two?

      1.16 Men are attracted to "nice" women, but women are not attracted to "nice" men

      Holy over-generalization, Batman! Also hilarious because their definition of "nice" is "basic human decency, also that means you owe me sex or else I'll abuse you".

      CW:SA

      1.18 Rapists are far more sexually active than other men

      I can't even comprehend what the hell they were thinking sticking this in there.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        vor 4 Jahren

        "Women like bad boys" is some 50s ass level of misogyny right there. It's a minority of people that like bad boys and as people realise it's not actually fun being in a relationship with an asshole the rate of 'bad boys' getting girls is decreasing.

        Women, like all people, like honesty. They can tell that incels just want to use them, so they steer clear. It's not that they don't like nice, it's that they don't like fake nice and can smell the 'biotruth' type of misogyny a mile away.

        basically, women aren't as dumb and easily manipulated as incels think they are.

    • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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      vor 4 Jahren

      The fact that it says this page maintains a neutral tone unironically immediately after “female coyness, sneakiness, and nastiness” is fucking hysterical to me

  • VHS [he/him]
    ·
    vor 4 Jahren

    redd*tors will come up with stuff like this and in the same breath say systemic racism doesn't exist

    • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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      vor 4 Jahren

      Nah, they're not really the same people. Incels absolutely do believe in systemic racism.

      • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
        ·
        vor 4 Jahren

        Incels absolutely do believe in systemic racism.

        Absolutely nothing I've ever seen from them suggests this is true. Incel enclaves are extremely reactionary echo chambers.

        • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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          vor 4 Jahren

          Those are not mutually exclusive. They can be fascists and also believe in systemic racism.

        • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
          ·
          vor 4 Jahren

          I lurked and partook in those sites for quite a long time. They're what made me believe in instituationalised racism and ultimately led me from being a Ben Shapiro dickhead to a lefty.

          • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
            ·
            vor 4 Jahren

            I stand corrected. I've spent 0 time there so I only have an outsider's perspective.

            • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
              ·
              vor 4 Jahren

              You're not totally wrong. There's a lot of race science and stuff like that. A lot of the things they say recognise racism but then reinforce it rather than combatting it. I know for a fact that a lot of people there take an alt right turn rather than a leftwards one.

              Stuff they identified quite well were things like eurocentric/aryan beauty standards and general racist stereotypes making it more difficult for POC to find partners than white people. A common phrase was 'whitecel is fakecel' - meaning that you can't be an incel if you're white because society gives you so many advantages. They also knew a lot about the indian racial caste system. 'Richcel is fakecel' is also common, as if you're rich you can have plastic surgery to look better, and you also have time and money that you can put towards 'looksmaxxing' (going to the gym, skincare, etc).

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                vor 4 Jahren

                The problem is that while they acknowledge that systematic racism is real, they don't do anything to combat it and in fact perpetuate it by treating it like its just the natural order of things

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    vor 4 Jahren

    The irony of using the name Eugene. Literally means "good"-gene

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
    ·
    vor 4 Jahren

    LMAO

    Imagine thinking it's the height and attractiveness that's the problem and not the fact that you're creepily obsessed with reducing relationships to a clinical and soulless transaction to serve your status.