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  • dolores_clitoris [none/use any]tomemesedit to racist parade float
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    9 months ago

    It is a wholesome "Human Shields" float. Depending on the messaging of that day, every person is embedded in Hamas, or every person is a human shield for Hamas.

    Edit: https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-197-the-human-shields-canard-as-catch-all-colonial-absolution





  • Not winning respect is part of the story, but the book is focusing more on the love, fulfillment and emotional satisfaction that is surrendered in order to fit into this patriarchal society. I can imagine there are a lot of "respected" people who are emotionally bankrupted by this system. Luckily, ignoring this system doesn't mean that you can't keep or grow how much you are respected; the people who respect you will be the thing that changes.


  • Some quotes from chapter 5:

    • "men come to sex hoping that it will provide them with all of the emotional satisfaction that would come from love. Most men think that sex will provide them with a sense of being alive, connected, that sex will offer closeness, intimacy, pleasure. More often than not sex simply does not deliver the goods. This fact does not lead men to cease obsessing about sex; in fact, it intensifies their lust and their longing."
    • "sexist logic had convinced them and convinced them that they can have connection and intimacy without commitment"
    • "almost everyone believes that we can have sex without love, most folks do not believe that a couple can have love in a relationship if there is no sex"
    • "women are the targets for displaced male rage at the failure of patriarchy to make good on it's promise of fulfillment, especially endless sexual fulfillment"
    • "Men may be too terrified to confront the facts of their lives and tell the truth, that possessing the right to engage in rituals of domination and subordination is not all that patriarchy promised it would be. If patriarchy were a disease, it would be a disease of disordered desire"
    • "socialising women to conform more to patriarchal male sexual norms is one way patriarchy hopes to address male rage"

    This chapter opened with a bang. It led me to think (for the first time in a while) about the one-night-stand and how depressing my one-night-stand experiences have all been. I disagree with Hooks, these experiences did not intensify my lust or longing for (casual) sex. Fortunately for me, I decided the best option was to form a connection before introducing sex into the equation.

    The points raised about male rage stemming from the absolute failure of patriarchal masculinity to provide a meaningful existence for men has been made before in a range of texts; however, this is the first time I have read of the indoctrination of women (through porn and popular culture) into patriarchal male sexual norms being used as a tool to address male rage.


  • Some quotes that stood out in chapter 4:

    -"frozen in time, unable to allow themselves to love, for fear that the loved one will abandon them"

    -"these men act out again and again to test their partners love; ultimately the woman will become weary of being tested and will end the relationship, thus reenacting the abandonment"

    -"acts of psychic self-mutilation, that they kill off the emotional parts of themselves"

    -"they choose patriarchal manhood over loving connection. First, foregoing self-love, and then the love they could give and receive that would connect them to others"

    This was an interesting chapter, one point that resonated with me was the violence of sons against their mothers. I remember having this realisation at some point in my teenage years, that I was clearly much stronger than my mum, I never acted on this but obviously for may households that is not the case.

    The points about men insulating themselves due to a fear of abandonment was also very close to home. This is a topic that I am still working on peronally. Reaching a point where the thoughts and feelings that I share with my partner match the thoughts and feelings I have in my head has been a huge challenge for me.


  • Sorry for the late reply.

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    Regarding your first paragraph, in a just world, none of those events should be happening to anyone.

    Second paragraph: if everyone is "fully consenting", that would mean every person involved is excited to move forward, which negates the idea of ownership somewhat. You cannot consent on behalf of your spouse. The terminology of "swapping" partners is problematic, but that terminology doesn't undo the full consent you are presenting as a "best case scenario".

    Finally, if the term "swingers" attracts the worst people, what term do these queer folks use to attract the right people? During play, what are the right people doing differently to the swingers?





  • Some quotes that resonated from chapter 2:

    • "in reality I was stronger and more violent than my brother, which we quickly learned was bad. He was a gentle, peaceful boy, which we learned was really bad"
    • "his gentle quiet manner often led folks to ignore him, counting him among the weak and powerless"
    • "psychological patriarchy is a dance of contempt, a perverse form of connection that replaces true intimacy with complex covert layers of dominance and submission, collusion and manipulation"

    From chapter 3:

    • "boys are free to be more emotional in early childhood because they have not yet learned to fear and despise expressing dependence"
    • "either boys act out, or they implode. Very few boys are taught to express, with words, what they feel, when they feel it"
    • "aggression (antisocial behaviour/isolation) was part of the ritual of separation, a means for the growing boy to assert his autonomy"
    • "patriarchy both creates the rage in boys and then contains it for later use, making it a resource to exploit later when boys become men. As a national product, this rage can be garnered to further imperialism, hatred, and oppression of women and men globally. This rage is needed if boys are to become men willing to travel around the world to fight wars without ever demanding that other ways of solving conflict be found"

    Some personal reflections:

    I remember moments throughout my childhood where the most disturbing thing I could do in my dad's opinion was to be gentle. The story told in chapter 2, about not caring who wins or loses marbles touched on this experience exactly.

    Another moment came from my mum and a family friend, insisting that I was about to become an isolated, angry teenager, before I'd actually exhibited any of that behaviour. Somehow showing me the path I should be on and preemptively shaming me for it.

    Lots to think about from these chapters


  • This thread came up at the perfect time, I am just about to finish reading 'Men Who Hate Women', looking at the same themes from the perspective of how men hate, rather than why men lose the ability to love.

    https://www.calton-books.co.uk/books/men-who-hate-women-from-incels-to-pickup-artists-the-truth-about-extreme-misogyny-and-how-it-affects-us-all/

    The first chapter of 'The Will to Change' was a good introduction to the topics the book will cover. Some quotes from the first chapter that resonated with me:

    • "he was fundamentally uncomfortable being asked to talk about emotions"

    • "the grief men feel about the failure of love goes unnoticed in our society, precisely because the patriarchal culture in our society does not care if men are happy"

    • "he continues to grapple with the issue of whether he will define himself, or allow himself to be defined by patriarchal standards"

    • "again and again, a man would tell me about early childhood: feelings of emotional exuberance, of unrepressed joy, of feeling connected to life and to other people, and then a rupture happened, a disconnect; and that feeling of being loved, of being embraced, was gone. Somehow, a test of manhood, men told me, was the willingness to accept this loss, to not speak it, even in private grief"

    Looking forward to the next chapters and discussions.