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Also, while I don't know much about the subject, isn't the estimate of $10 profit per person extremely unrealistic?
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yeah ok, you're playing 10,000 people every night
for literally 27 years straight
ok dude
And making 10 bucks PROFIT per person that shows up. That's not how ticket sales work nobody on the planet probably not even Taylor Swift is personally making 10 bucks profit per person that comes to their show. There's absolutely no way.
yeah exactly. most profitable thing for most major touring artists is going to be merch sales. that's probably even still true for taylor, although likely less so since she owns most of her music rights these days. but the $10 profit is just such an absurd suggestion
Just being able to consistently sell out shows involves a massive marketing and management infrastructure that probably eats a large chunk of live show profits. It's such a dumb guy to think that if you're just good at something you'll be magically successful
not to mention the bizarre claim that they'd be able to sustain that for several decades. like i'm pretty sure the rolling stones don't have 10k paying audience members nightly.
also, just the idea that a person could physically survive touring that hard for that long is laughable. you'd literally die, if you did that.
And apparently, the audience will never get tired of this musician who never writes or records new music because they're too busy doing arena shows every single night for 27 years.
not even the taylor swift music collective even, since as you pointed out, the math doesn't math for even her, and also as you point out, she very much does not write her own music. she might write a majority of her own lyrics and maybe even a number of her own song skeletons, but production for taylor swift has been phoned in for a bit now. and even if it wasn't that's still people that are being paid to work on it, not her grinding at the studio in between eras tour stops.
i think this guy is literally making up numbers while thinking of actually taylor swift. they just specifically want to know why you would kill actual billionaire taylor swift, but her optics suck because plane etc. and therefore they just worked backwards to contrive this "example"
This has to just be a child right? There's no way an actual adult would be this oblivious to how the world works
a lot of people are willing to type really dumb shit they come up with and don't think about it, and then defend that dumb shit vociferously.
She also is absolutely not the only person who works on her music or her shows.
Even then, I doubt Taylor Swift, the person, made $10 profit per person who attended the Eras tour. She certainly did not do 167 shows in a year, she did 152 shows in a year and a half.
Also, this musician is so talented that they never have to pay for rent, or food.
don't need to pay for rent if you're literally always on the road
Just explaining even further that they've never played music for pay lol
- Show
This person clearly thinks the only thing the musician does is walk in the arena, play, and walk out.
60 years isn't your whole life
???? a career from like 18 to 78 isn't a lifetime??
No, no. This is a child star who remained famous their whole life, and didn't have a mental breakdown.
Lmao this mf just found out about the divide button on their calculator and think it makes them a genius I love them
Oo I love the hypothetical game! I have one.
Let's say in a hypothetical world, capitalism was a cancer on mankind responsible for some of the most heinous crimes against humanity imaginable. Let's also say, hypothetically of course, that there was an alternative way to run society. One that treated human life with dignity.
i would love to see their thoughts on the sweatshop workers making the tour merch that is the most profitable thing for a typical artist that doesn't own their music rights.
Lets see. I make $35k a year and I'm 30 years old... I'm a millionaire!
Where does this musician even get the time to write and record music if they're doing 167 live shows a year?
What if someone was really lucky and found $100,000 worth of dropped coins on the street every day for ten thousand days straight? If you have an issue with billionaires it must mean you want to kill people who pick up coins they find.
My entire economy these days revolves around finding bills that someone lost in the streets
"Hey, look how much Skinner makes! $25,000 a year!.... Lets see, he's 40 years old, times 25 grand... Whoa, hes a millionaire!"
Grateful Dead played 2,318 shows.
I don’t think any band in history has played 10,000 shows
Well, maybe if the Grateful Dead were go-getters and not lazy, they could be quadrillionaires and rule the world.
They should've done more truckin' and got their chips cashed in
Playing 10,000 shows over the course of 50 years would be one show every 1.825 days. You'd basically have to get extremely famous very early on and do a lifetime residency in Vegas.
And Vegas is very much a place where show trends come and go. You'd have to spend pretty much every waking hour not preparing or doing a show seeing what's popular and what's up and coming, and also be right every time, so you can sustain 10,000 people every show.
Dang I was just about to post something similar.
Instead: I'll say that the comment ironically shows how absurd it is. A show every 2 days, to 10k people (good luck maintaining that average), for an entire lifetime. No breaks.
Or consider giving someone $1m a year. The oldest people who lived are around 120 and would "only" have 1/10th of a billion.
It's not even the money, goddamnit. It's that once you have a billion dollars you have massive influence over society and can steer the course of events that can have global consequences.
Nobody with a billion dollars goes "dang I can buy 200 million $5 footlongs!" This person has dogbrain.
Nobody with a billion dollars goes “dang I can buy 200 million $5 footlongs!”
even doing that is still you taking a bunch of resources
All part of my plan to stack bologna high enough to climb it and fistfight god
Simple just sell out a 10000 person show every night for 27 years.
Nobody has or will ever make a billion dollars like that. You live in a straw house built of all the straw men you deliver online, you straw-filled doofus.
Best answer to any bullshit "hypothetical" defense of billionaires
you personally took care of the setup of the venue, serving the customers, cleaning up and everything else that goes into getting 10,000 people to a show? The artist is obviously the main attraction, but you'd get excactly $0 without all the people around you, so don't claim that you produced 100% of the value
The same goes for any sports, none of the players would make any money if no-one was handling the tickets or toilets
If you believe a single person could become a billionaire on their own, I have some great investment tips for you (not financial advice, but mayocoin is going up and staying there forever and ever even if you sell, no need to hodl)
Have you considered that this very talented musician is a sole trader and they ARE going to handle all those roles...for 27 years straight?
I for one love the hardworking attitude of this hypothetical musician and therefore love Billionaires
This person is absolutely guaranteed to be a minor. This is too fucking dumb, even for redditors.
Apparently this guy missed the practically ancient trope of the starving artist.
look if i'm busking in times square and each person gives me $10 and 10,000 people pass through there each hour then i just have to spend 10,000 hours busking in times square and i'll be a billionaire but leftists think this makes me evil
I have an issue with people making money
