cw for weight/body image, of course
Usually discussions about this get overrun by chuds so I think it'd be nice to hear what people here have to say.
Personally I think it's some good and positive ideas but they're mixed in with potentially harmful medical misinformation.
Fat people shouldn't get shit on for their weight, shit's exhausting. But at the same time, I don't think we should necessarily promote obesity with things like "fat is beautiful" because I'm in the boat of people who'd rather promote the idea that you don't need to be beautiful to be a good person, instead of trying to spin everything as beauty. My line is that we shouldn't encourage and look favorably at being fat, and we should try to lower the average weight and augment the overall health of society. However, this doesn't mean that we should shit on fat people, if they're comfortable with their own weight and aren't dying to it, then live and let live.
I'm sorry but that kinda reads like a backhanded compliment, at least when I encounter it in the wild. The "Oh people don't have to be beautiful to be good" stuff, fat people are fucking beautiful and deserve to feel that way, swerving into "why do we even care about beauty in the first place" whenever this is brought up unintentionally just reads as "fat people aren't beautiful but its mean to say that so lets just ignore the whole thing".
Fat people can be beautiful, sure, but fat itself doesn't make them beautiful. In any case, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we'd do better not to police a subjective idea.
Idk how you're not policing shit when you start saying that saying "fat is beautiful" promotes obesity, like its not a literal meaning of fat cells are beautiful but that fat people are beautiful. Either way this kind of concern trolling is basically exclusively reserved for fat people when it comes to "Oh we shouldnt promote health issues" but people pretend that like a tiny text on a ciggarette packet that says "smoking kills" is equal to a global culture of bullying and dehumanizing people for being fat.
Yeah obviously, for fucks sake. Let's not pretend for a second that all fat people are beautiful, and that fat is the determining factor that makes them beautiful as your sentence suggests.
Being honest here, obesity has no upsides and instead of seeking to mimic how smoking is treated in popular culture and have people fetishize the act and killing themselves, maybe the thing to do is to discourage both but don't dehumanise people struggling with either.
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I don't find trans people attractive, and most people don't either
See how it sounds?
Love to use trans people as objects in my misleading arguments
Just saying that as a fat guy I feel like shit a lot for being fat, and I don't need more
Also being fat has helped me understand trans issues. Dysphoria is not exclusive to my trans comrades, I understand what it's like to hate the body you have too.
Fair, as I said before, there's no reason that fat people should get shit on for their weight. But the point is that as a polity we should stay away from that any weight is healthy, being obese is perfectly natural bullshit. Fatness should be regarded as just another disadvantageous characteristic some people need to deal with, like having short-eye sight or being unable to eat spicy foods, nothing more or less.
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I assure you that I am not.
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