Also, is "non-tax haven" the definition of normal to you? Its a fucking colony with multiple layers of eletric fences and pits of barbed wire, jackass. To call that normal is accepting those attrocities, colonialist dipshit.
then why the fuck are you calling it normal? In this thread it appears you are defending european territory in Africa, as the most assholish of europeans do. Your colonialist country and its oversees territories deserve nothing but spite for what it did in the past and continues to do in the present.
FIrst of, imagine claiming that the people of Melilla are responsible for the wall and not our central government. Do you believe Melilla is a white ethnostate or something?
Second of, "my people" stayed here, go tell that to YOUR ancerstors and leave me alone. Also, imagine blaming some sitty peasant for colonialism and not the royal family.
Third of, being latino is worth shit when discussing Africa. Either learn about the topic at hand or fuck off.
Your "peasant" ass seems privileged enough to blab and defend your overlord's actions and land dominance, and then mocking a latino for the rapists that delivered spoils to the place you benefit from. For someone that pretends to be so smart you really lack the historical knowledge.
You stayed there while pushing others to do your dirty work abroad, exactly like its done in the border of Melilla. Or do you really believe people of Melilla oppose those wall while wanting to be spanish, as you can divine?
I've never imagined seeing in this website anyone stupid enough to defend the sovereignty of a Spanish colony just becuase its 500 years old. Either learn about the the horrors your people still cause or fuck off and stop defending it.
But please, keep calling the opinion of latinos shit while on the other side of the stick. Someday those walls will fall and you may not be so lucky.
It's insane how someone can imagine someone else's reply and then answer that insted of the real one. Truly amazing.
Yeah, i really benefit from all the wars our kings did in the past that were used to fund more wars and a few swiss banks. Why complain about current western colonialism when i can complain about 500 years ago? Why talk about the FMI or the current problems facing SA when i can focus on a small patch of spanish territory?
Truly amazing how someone can find out about something and then, instead of reflect, proceeds to insult the person talking about context.
Interesting, do you really believe that your first world status isn't privileged and waranted to the abuse you commited to other nations for centuries and continue to commit nowadays?
Or do you believe that the Spanish people are just magically more wealthy today because of their inherent virtue? And if you do, isn't it even worse to think that white nations are rich just because of their heritage?
Why complain about current western colonialism when i can complain about 500 years ago?
Is your white ass physically incapable of accepting you benefit from the exploitation your nation did so long ago, suffering no consequences for it whatsoever while still clutching some of those lands? You should be ashamed for hoarding it for so long, not proud of it!
Why talk about the FMI or the current problems facing SA when i can focus on a small patch of spanish territory?
Are you talking to yourself? Because you seem really horny about defending that piece of land for unbeknownst reasons.
How about the Africans who die every year trying to get across your apartheid wall because they don’t have the luck and privilege of being born on the side of the fence that covers European citizenship???
There's no return on searching for that group. Could you link any sources? And if it is a movement that wants independency, then why do you defend for it to remain non-independent?
Stop saying 500 years like its a reasonable argument. THE COLONIAL PERIOD WAS 500 YEARS AGO COLONIZER TRASH. Its a terrible argument in defense of european ownership of African land.
The Spanish exclave cities have been both casus belli and staging grounds for colonial wars on Morocco. Melilla was just a garrison until the Hispano-Moroccan war of 1860 after which they rapidly built a city.
The whole point of owning territory there is to control Mediterranean shipping, not to have a laugh on the beach.
Ok but you get what Gibraltar is for? It's so they could shoot boats right? Same idea there, just a bit earlier. Gibraltar has a city too, I can put a city anywhere. Jamestown was a city.
Gibraltar also being a tax haven is just completely irrelevant, it wasn't established so they could have a stupid tax haven, it was established to shoot boats and extract wealth from the Mediterranean, you keep saying it's a tax haven,
the Spanish government has granted them 50% tax exemption, both for commercial companies and personal assets. In other words, if you manage a company in the Spanish enclaves, you’ll only pay half of the usual corporate tax and income tax.
50% tax credit on CIT levied on income obtained in Ceuta and Melilla through companies established and carrying on activities in these enclaves during a full business cycle because of their specific geographic location.
correct my ignorance, oh white genius that didn't even know your country also has tax havens but insists on claiming knowledge about a colony in Africa.
Being a tax haven while pissing off the spanish is so much better than having a colony within pits of barbed wire and eletric fences in african soil conquered during the colonial period.
Hilarious how the Spanish are pissed about Gibraltar while having the same fucking thing on the exact other side.
Didn’t even think about that
Because they are completely different issues. Melilla and Ceuta have been spanish for 500 years and are normal cities.
Meanwhile Gibraltar is a tax haven, a resort for old brits and a tool used by Great Britain to dominate the Mediterranean sea.
They aren't normal cities at all.
Are they tax havens? Do the people there not have spanish citizenship?
They are barely not tax havens, with their corporate exemptions.
Also, is "non-tax haven" the definition of normal to you? Its a fucking colony with multiple layers of eletric fences and pits of barbed wire, jackass. To call that normal is accepting those attrocities, colonialist dipshit.
WTF, who the hell "accepted" those atrocities? I literally say in this thread that those have to go.
then why the fuck are you calling it normal? In this thread it appears you are defending european territory in Africa, as the most assholish of europeans do. Your colonialist country and its oversees territories deserve nothing but spite for what it did in the past and continues to do in the present.
That "european territory in Africa" has been spanish for 500 years. Why do you want to ignore the will of the people living there?
Hell, i hate when yanks complain about stuff they have just discovered.
The will of the people living there is keeping up those monstrous walls, dumbass. Fuck your first worlder imperialist desires.
Imagine pretending to be a leftist defending one of the filthiest colonialist nations, lmao.
I'm latino btw, I know personally the horrors your people brought 500 years ago.
Lmao what.
FIrst of, imagine claiming that the people of Melilla are responsible for the wall and not our central government. Do you believe Melilla is a white ethnostate or something?
Second of, "my people" stayed here, go tell that to YOUR ancerstors and leave me alone. Also, imagine blaming some sitty peasant for colonialism and not the royal family.
Third of, being latino is worth shit when discussing Africa. Either learn about the topic at hand or fuck off.
Your "peasant" ass seems privileged enough to blab and defend your overlord's actions and land dominance, and then mocking a latino for the rapists that delivered spoils to the place you benefit from. For someone that pretends to be so smart you really lack the historical knowledge.
You stayed there while pushing others to do your dirty work abroad, exactly like its done in the border of Melilla. Or do you really believe people of Melilla oppose those wall while wanting to be spanish, as you can divine?
I've never imagined seeing in this website anyone stupid enough to defend the sovereignty of a Spanish colony just becuase its 500 years old. Either learn about the the horrors your people still cause or fuck off and stop defending it.
But please, keep calling the opinion of latinos shit while on the other side of the stick. Someday those walls will fall and you may not be so lucky.
Lmao what.
It's insane how someone can imagine someone else's reply and then answer that insted of the real one. Truly amazing.
Yeah, i really benefit from all the wars our kings did in the past that were used to fund more wars and a few swiss banks. Why complain about current western colonialism when i can complain about 500 years ago? Why talk about the FMI or the current problems facing SA when i can focus on a small patch of spanish territory?
Truly amazing how someone can find out about something and then, instead of reflect, proceeds to insult the person talking about context.
Interesting, do you really believe that your first world status isn't privileged and waranted to the abuse you commited to other nations for centuries and continue to commit nowadays?
Or do you believe that the Spanish people are just magically more wealthy today because of their inherent virtue? And if you do, isn't it even worse to think that white nations are rich just because of their heritage?
Is your white ass physically incapable of accepting you benefit from the exploitation your nation did so long ago, suffering no consequences for it whatsoever while still clutching some of those lands? You should be ashamed for hoarding it for so long, not proud of it!
Are you talking to yourself? Because you seem really horny about defending that piece of land for unbeknownst reasons.
How about the Africans who die every year trying to get across your apartheid wall because they don’t have the luck and privilege of being born on the side of the fence that covers European citizenship???
I literally just said that the wall should be removed.
So you disagree with the people of Melilla
No?
Go and find me the Melilla independentist movement. Go
There's no return on searching for that group. Could you link any sources? And if it is a movement that wants independency, then why do you defend for it to remain non-independent?
Yes. Because AS I SAID: IT DOESN'T EXIST.
THE ONLY ONES TALKING ABOUT INDEPENDENCE ARE YANKS IN THIS FUCKING THREAD.
So there is no movement there against those walls? Sounds like Melilla has to go
YES, FUCKING YES. AS I SAID, EVERY FUCKING LEFTIST WANTS THEM GONE.
Also: Melilla =/= those walls. If the wall in Mexico disappears would the US be gone?
You do realize that there are movements in the US against the Wall? Please show me any group in Melilla that wants those walls gone.
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHH
EVERY FUCKING LEFTIST. EVERYONE. EVERY SINGLE ONE
Could you even call yourself a leftist living in a colony in Africa with those freaking walls?
You still fail to show me any group in Melilla that oppose those walls. Please, show me the "leftists" in Melilla.
EVERY FUCKING LEFTIST. HOLY SHIT, READ ABOUT OUR POLITICAL PARTIES OR FUCK OFF.
Show me one leftist party movement in Melilla or fuck off colonizer.
AAAAAGGGGG
Podemos, the PCTE, the PCPE, the PCE, IU...
ALL THE SPANISH LEFTIST PARTIES. HOLY SHIT, YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
could you please show me their statements over Melilla?
Look them up yourself, fucking idiot. Do you also want a handjob? Fuck off.
Lmao, you know they don't exist. Colonizer leftists are really a joke.
Melilla and ceuta should be part of morocco dumbass
Either justify your response (or don't, because you clearly know nothing about them) or fuck off.
Go to the border. Tell me if that looks okay.
Literally no one said that.
You are defending it. Tell me a single person in Melilla who doesn't want those walls.
WTF. I just fucking said that THE WALLS HAVE TO GO.
The walls will never go if Melilla doesn't go, and you know that.
Oh ok, then to remove the wall in the US we need to tear the whole country down. TIL
hopefully lmao
It’s as normal as the occupied territories in Palestine
Nah, that's the sahara, you know, the place currently occupied by Morocco where they are murdering tons of people after invading it in the 70s.
Due to their special marginal location, the Spanish government has granted them 50% tax exemption, both for commercial companies and personal assets.
" normal city " for sure
Tax haven =/= City
You: these are the same thing.
I don't think they're mad about the tax haven, I think they're mad about the territorial incursion.
What incursion? It has been there for 500 years and neither Morocco or Spain existed back then.
It should be part of Morocco. Duh.
When your fortress enclave gets questioned and you’re like “but it’s been there for so long!” Fucking lol.
Lmao, why.
Yeah sure, let's give them two cities that have been spanish for 500 years to the country currently occupying the Sahara and murdering everyone there.
Stop saying 500 years like its a reasonable argument. THE COLONIAL PERIOD WAS 500 YEARS AGO COLONIZER TRASH. Its a terrible argument in defense of european ownership of African land.
Oh, now i see, so the whole argument was indeed "map look nice".
Ah, yes, minimizing the damages of european colonialization to "making the map ugly" is very fitting for a dumbass like you.
Ahora ya sé como se sentía Sancho Panza cuando lo de los molinos. Dios mío, que turra.
Tu sufrimiento es mi placer, colonizador.
Lmao, terrible spanish. Obvious tank is obvious. Literally no one talks like that. Shit, extremely obvious google translation.
Keep crying, my latino spanish is more relevant than european nowadays, white trash.
That's not even latino, it's robot.
lol, you literally talk like a stereotype of yourself. Is Don Quijote the only book you've ever read? Sure looks like it.
Oh, now i see, so the whole argument was indeed "map look nice".
The Spanish exclave cities have been both casus belli and staging grounds for colonial wars on Morocco. Melilla was just a garrison until the Hispano-Moroccan war of 1860 after which they rapidly built a city.
The whole point of owning territory there is to control Mediterranean shipping, not to have a laugh on the beach.
Sure, as i said, it's a city, not a resort. Comparing it with all those turist cities for white people in third world countries is disingenous.
Ok but you get what Gibraltar is for? It's so they could shoot boats right? Same idea there, just a bit earlier. Gibraltar has a city too, I can put a city anywhere. Jamestown was a city.
Gibraltar is a tax haven, Melilla isn't.
:cringe:
who CARES
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You just compared them, what's your point?
Gibraltar also being a tax haven is just completely irrelevant, it wasn't established so they could have a stupid tax haven, it was established to shoot boats and extract wealth from the Mediterranean, you keep saying it's a tax haven,
and wait a minute
https://tax-free.today/blog/setting-company-in-spain
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/spain/corporate/tax-credits-and-incentives
:cringe: they're even tax havens lmao
Huh, TIL. That should go.
But why are you now talking about the Canarie Islands? Wasn't this about Ceuta and Melilla?
I am not, the article has a section about Ceuta and Melilla which I cited
You claimed that they were tax havens. They aren't.
are you high
What?
First you bring up Gibraltar for some reason, then lie by saying that they were tax havens, now this.
Again, your point is?
its ok buddy
Fuck spain and your modern day colonies. You know exactly what their purpose is, dipshit.
Yes, people live there.
People live in Gibraltar. Your point? The worst kind of whites bother to live in colonies with tax exemptions.
Damn, how can someone so ignorant spew so much shit per minute.
correct my ignorance, oh white genius that didn't even know your country also has tax havens but insists on claiming knowledge about a colony in Africa.
Nah, i've been doing that all day and it's clear you are a troll.
So fuck off, yank.
Shut your mouth, colonizer. Your opinion means jackshit when it comes to the land you stole during the colonial period.
Being a tax haven while pissing off the spanish is so much better than having a colony within pits of barbed wire and eletric fences in african soil conquered during the colonial period.