• GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    I really hate this, because it expresses god as a judge in some municipal court trying to see if you technically did what you were supposed. There are multiple parts of the Bible where Jesus goes off on the pharisees for trying to rules-lawyer their way into being pure rather than try to act with pure intentions. It is also repeatedly mentioned that the letter of the law is not important, but the spirit of law is what we are supposed to be getting. I'm sure God would prefer a young couple in love to violate the letter of the law by having sex but maintain the spirit by keeping it between two close partners. Meanwhile, this rules-lawyering nonsense shows no love or respect for God and simply a begrudging fear of hell, a resentment of God for requesting certain things of you and a view of this all as a transactional relationship. To view your relationship with God not as a Holy Covenant founded in the love shown in Jesus' sacrifice on the Cross and the outpouring of His blood at the Last Supper, but instead as some contract the same as with a fairy or demon where you must play word-games and mess with definitions to game the system is a slap in the face of God. No wonder Mormons are freaks, they seem incapable of understanding God's love, and deny love to their fellow humans.

    • RobotnikFeminism [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      It's like the legal argument that Bill Clinton getting a blowjob in DC doesn't legally constitute a sexual relation, but with Mormon levels of prudeness.

      That alternate universe where Mitt Romney became president must be insane.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        the press would have a field day with water puns. "Romney soaked, then blasted" "sponging away corruption"

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      We catholics are superior cuz we do whatever we want and then tell that to a dude who can't fuck and he tell us to go pray some twenty paternoster

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah the masses I went weren't in latin anymore yet my father remember the controversy of masses now being in spanish. Anyways I said paternoster cuz you'll get what I was referring instead of googling how you call the paternoster in english

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        Believing we can actually receive forgiveness if we ask for it is better than thinking any mistake is forever and God hates us.

    • moonlake [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah if god exists, "soaking" is 10 times more insulting to him than if these teens just fucked

    • Rem [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Woah. U got that theology knowledge.

      • Jeff_Benzos [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        God is real and Jesus was trans, sorry if you can't face the facts

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        oh no, a condescending take on something non-verifiable either way.

        • Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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          3 years ago

          If there is a God, then it's either evil or it's not all-powerful... and in both cases it is unworthy of being called a God.

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            3 years ago

            That's not a logical argument. You'd have to define God, evil, and good in such a way all these traits align with your perspective, and I likely disagree. So, I know your perspective and disagree. General rule of thumb: don't criticize someone's declaration of faith unless it is actively and intentionally harming you.

            • Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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              3 years ago

              No faiths harm intentionally. That's the problem with them. They always think that what they're doing is "for your own good" or "for the good of your soul" or "to serve God".

              So, by your logic, what they are doing is innocent and fine, because it's passive and/or unintentional harm.

              Aside from that, when I'm talking about "God" I'm specifically speaking about the Judeo-Christian-Islamic "God of Abraham" which is the religion that most people in the world claim for their faith. That god, specifically, did some fucked up repugnant shit. Like commanding his followers to commit genocide:

              (Deuteronomy 20:16-18): 6 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.

              (Joshua 10:36-37): 36 Then Joshua and all Israel with him went up from Eglon to Hebron and attacked it. 37 They took the city and put it to the sword, together with its king, its villages and everyone in it. They left no survivors. Just as at Eglon, they totally destroyed it and everyone in it.

              I could quote a LOT more repugnant evil shit, but you know what I'm talking about.

              • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                3 years ago

                yeah I also don't really care. no part of what I said or did affected you in the slightest, but you have to put on the :le-pol-face: and act like I tried to convert you. Also, most people by the numbers are Hindu and in a loose sense believe in the Brahman as the ultimate force of creation. In short, shut up and go back to :reddit-logo: if your gonna act like this.

                • Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  yeah I also don’t really care.

                  Clearly.

                  most people by the numbers are Hindu

                  And I've seen what the Hindus have been doing in India lately. Have you? They're fucking fascists.

                  shut up and go back to stormfront if your gonna act like this.

                  WTF.

    • dave297 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I will say trying to exact words God when you don't want to do what God told you to is not a unique behaviour to Mormons.

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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      3 years ago

      Meanwhile, this rules-lawyering nonsense shows no love or respect for God and simply a begrudging fear of hell, a resentment of God for requesting certain things of you and a view of this all as a transactional relationship.

      Why should one love or respect a being who is canonically responsible for all the death and suffering present within this world today? Any sort of relationship with a creator "god" is transactional because you pray to it and it doesn't annihilate you with lightning or whatever, and yet misfortune still arises because even though this "god" has the power to create literal heaven on earth, it chooses otherwise and perpetuates mass suffering. Tbf you gotta respect the sublime beauty of such a fucking horrific eldritch being...

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        If there were Heaven on Earth, Humans would not have free will and would not be capable of good deeds. There is no right or wrong if your actions have no negative or positive repercussions for other people or even yourself, as they would in a Heaven, and everyone would be the same and act the same as they would have the same starting point and same experiences. If you think that's bs fine, whatever, but that's our cosmology.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        Thanks. I just hate the perversion of faith as some kind of contract rather than a loving relationship so common in American culture. If they hate the rules so much, why do they try to follow them?

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        Thanks. My Faith is very important to me, so I hate seeing this weird, nonsense take that god is trying to send us to hell unless we figure out some loophole rather than someone giving us guidelines for a better life.