Porn is bad folks, discuss

  • Reversi [none/use name]
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    4 years ago
    1. In high concept, people recording themselves having sex should be as unremarkable as people creating any other form of art

    2. Social alienation, competition, and hyperindividualization creates a dependency on pornography

    3. The porn industry is exploitative, particularly to young people, and sets them up for social difficulties later on given the misogynistic nature of American society--add in the lack of organization, unionization, and the societal sense that anyone in porn is a second-class citizen unworthy of justice

    So, the most ethical thing you can do is consume sexual art made by exhibitionists or others who freely provide it without any kind of coercion, until it gets to the point in the ideal future where the only people doing sex work are those who deeply enjoy it

    • BreadandRoses76 [he/him,comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Yeah from an ethics view that seems like the only acceptable option other than just abstaining from pornography entirely. I think that the porn industry also contributes massively to misogynistic culture and regulating or abolishing the industry as it is would be a critical victory for the left.

      • Reversi [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        The thing is though that it doesn't so much contribute to the culture as replay it. Everything stereotypical about porn--jacked black dudes with huge dicks stealing your white women, women just needing be forced into it then they'll enjoy it, the boss/professor/authority figure taking advantage of a vulnerable girl, that sex is solely for a man's pleasure and his ejaculation is the most important aspect, the increasing spectacle of rougher and more demeaning sex, etc. etc. etc.--that came from the society itself. Instead of smoking cigarettes behind the gym and talking about which girls are willing to do what, you do it online now.

        But it's a huge industry, and it's recently played up the progressive language and pretending to care about safe sex and sponsoring Youtubers/streamers and stuff to rebrand itself as somehow forward-thinking. So now they can dismiss any criticism as being sex-negative or a moral panic rather than about their actual practices.

        • BreadandRoses76 [he/him,comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Absolutely the way companies like porn hub try to act woke and nice while profiting from rape and abuse is just sickening.

          I suppose with the culture question is a bit of a "chicken or the egg" thing; did misogynistic culture produce violent degrading porn or did violent porn produce a misogynistic culture? In reality its probably a mix of both.

          • Reversi [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            did misogynistic culture produce violent degrading porn or did violent porn produce a misogynistic culture?

            The first one.

            Literally everything seen in porn that can be seen as misogynistic or cruel existed before it. The culture today isn't more accepting of brutality than it was fifty years ago, they're just more aware of it.