Liberals are authoritarians, we all pretty much agree on that here but what's the best way to communicate this to a well meaning baby leftist?
Anything worth linking to or specific phrasings you like using? How do you go about justifying that liberals are the "real" authoritarians and not the communists?
Liberals pretty much want to either shove the homeless into a labor camp (eg prison) or force them on to a death march (eg destroying their tents and possessions before forcing them out of the city where they can die from exposure). In general, liberals view homeless people as subhumans who must be exterminated. It's something that they don't hide as well as the other ghoulish aspects of liberalism. Liberals not only want a repressive state apparatus to crack the skulls of the homeless but they would go so far as to imbue the very architecture of their cities with anti-homeless measures. Can't have the homeless soil the seats of public benches and other flat surfaces with their homeless asses, so there needs to be spikes everywhere. Or barring that, every flat surface needs to be in some awkward angle so that it's virtually impossible to sit on them.
Meanwhile, communists just want to give homes to the homeless and call it a day lol
You're describing fascism. Liberals want homeless people out of sight. If they woke up tomorrow and fascists had exterminated all homeless people, libs would be really upset for six months and then move on. But if they woke up tomorrow and all homeless people had been given homes, they'd live with that, too.
I described the difference. If we insist on pretending that those who actually want to kill homeless people are the same as people who would be fine with giving them housing so long as they're out of sight, we'll get nowhere.
Saying that everything right of Stalin is fascism makes the term meaningless. Fascism is something specific and dangerous, and saying that regular old liberalism is the same is not accurate. Liberalism is bad, and kills people, and there are similarities with fascism, but they aren't the same thing. Words mean things.
Stalin also went on to ally with liberal capitalists in WWII.
They absolutely will not because that would tank their property value. When liberals want the homeless gone, they want them gone.
Libs passively support plenty of stuff that would be considered equally radical if it didn't already exist (social security, Medicare and Medicaid, public libraries). They'd do the same here.
Those are different because they don't directly impact the liberals' property investment in the same way homeless people would. Just giving people homes would also drive down rent, something that they absolutely do not want as well. Reforms like rent control pretty much fail hard even in so-called progressive states like California. I think you vastly underestimate how ghoulish "live laugh love" liberals sound like when they talk about homeless people. You start to hear dehumanizing language like saying homeless people are disgusting. Imagine if you heard someone say Black people are disgusting or trans people are disgusting. Liberals pretty much see the homeless the same exact way fascists see trans people.
When I mean liberals, I'm not talking capitalist subjects who passively internalize the hegemonic ideology of liberalism. I'm talking about lanyard-wearing "live laugh love" liberals who watch CNN all day and either own a small rental property or aspire to own a small rental property. They hate, hate, hate, hate the homeless.
Libs always have economic arguments against good things (see Medicare for All) -- that's what makes them libs, not leftists. But once those things are in place they are not the ones clamoring to tear them down. This is fundamentally different from how fascists view them.
My point isn't that libs support good things -- they don't, at least not uniformly, and not actively enough -- it's that libs aren't going to actively sabatoge good things once they're in place.
Dehumanizing language isn't just any insult directed at a group. Dehumanizing language is stuff like saying homeless people "infest" an area, calling homeless people "zombies," or calling for cops to clear "bodies" out of an area. You see this all the time from fascists but rarely from libs.
Like I said earlier, things like universal healthcare benefit liberals, so they tolerate it and even support it. Housing homeless people is largely a detriment to their property value, so they oppose it. I could give other examples. White and Asian liberals absolutely hate affirmative action as much as their fascist peers, and they'll push to get rid of that shit as well. That's why so-called progressive state California doesn't even have affirmative action and hasn't had affirmative action since the 90s. Affirmative action wasn't scraped in California by fascists but by liberals. The only reason why the Democratic Party nominally support affirmative action is because of Black and Latine liberals.
You never hear liberals complain about how homeless people are disgusting for smelling like piss and making everywhere else smell like piss because of public urination? You never hear liberals complain about how their tents are a complete eyesore and a vector for disease?
...they don't? I know plenty of white and asian libs who support affirmative action. Democrats as a whole support AA much more than Republicans, so it's hard to belive even a majority of white libs oppose it, much less hate it the same as fascists do (i.e., on Bell Curve racist grounds).
This isn't dehumanizing language, either. You honestly see no difference between "I don't like smelling piss/seeing someone piss when I walk down the street" and "we should sweep these zombies from the streets and put them on an island somewhere" (actual Republican proposal!)?
Those are just polls. I'm talking about real life where a blue state like California has dismantled affirmative action. Californians voted to pass Proposition 209 which dismantled affirmative action and voted against Proposition 16, which would've repealed Proposition 209. It wasn't spearheaded by some hidden cabal of Californian fascists, especially not Proposition 16, which happened in 2020 when most fascists had long since fled from "Commiefornia."
There's a difference between dehumanizing language and genocidal language. Cool, I give liberals the bare minimum of not articulating their genocidal thoughts of the homeless out loud like fascists even if they agree with them in private.
In 1996, when the state had a Republican governor. It's absurd to attribute that to liberals, just as it's absurd to say California is nothing but liberals today. Reactionary referendums are frequently spearheaded by fascists, too.