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    • lesseva96@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, because in 2014, half their country was occupied by a foreign invader lol.

      Oh no my neighbor is seeking alliances after I annexed their shit, how conniving of them!

      • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]
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        1 year ago

        this was 5 years later. Ukraine wouldnt need an alliance if they didnt consistently violate the Minsk agreements by bombing civilians in the DPR and LPR, giving Russia a reasonable casus belli

        • aport@programming.dev
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          1 year ago

          bombing civilians in the DPR and LPR

          Proof?

          giving Russia a reasonable casus belli

          Putin didn't even recognize DPR and LPR until the day before he invaded Ukraine. This is some concentrated revisionist history.

          • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]
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            1 year ago

            here is the info abt civilian bombing and here are some other war crimes.

            recognizing the DPR and LPR would seriously escalate tensions between Russia and Ukraine/NATO. Russia did, however, maintain informal relations with them, including providing aid. DPR and LPR invited Russia to liberate them from Ukraine. you have no idea what revisionist means if you think thats what im doing here. Russia absolutely had a justified casus belli

            • aport@programming.dev
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              1 year ago

              recognizing the DPR and LPR would seriously escalate tensions between Russia and Ukraine/NATO

              That's why he did it the day before invading. Putin was hoping his separatists in DPR and LPR could weaken Ukraine without getting his hands dirty. When he saw that wasn't working, he got involved.

              DPR and LPR invited Russia to liberate them from Ukraine.

              Yes, that's kinda what pro-Russian separatists are supposed to do. Next you'll tell me CPC members in Taiwan want one country, two systems.

              Russia absolutely had a justified casus belli

              Sorry I'm still not seeing it

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                • aport@programming.dev
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                  1 year ago

                  Oh boy can you start another dunk thread on this so I can flex my myopic, limited understanding of complex socio-political situations and make another fool of myself?

                  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    Not a bad idea tbh, you're incredibly uninformed and that's what we thrive on.

                    You suffer so other people can learn

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                  • Egon
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            • aport@programming.dev
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              1 year ago

              split the difference, three days? He officially recognized LPR and DPR on 21 Feb and invaded Ukraine on 24 Feb

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Ah, I thought he recognized them, declared their annexation three days later, and invaded three days after that.