I can see how they got away with not saying any Arabic terms in the last movie, but come on, are they really gonna ret-con the whole vocabulary of the setting to avoid upsetting some cracker groypers?

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I only watched the first part, but you can't see it and not see Lawrence of Arabia and the white saviourism of it. (I realise that everyone's said this, but really it hit me hard).

    • RangeFourHarry [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      That’s kinda the point though, the Bene Gesserit seeded a messiah narrative a thousand years before Paul got there. Haven’t read all of dune, but hearing people talk about it, it seems like Herbert is deconstructing the whole ‘chosen one’ narrative. It’s supposed to be fucked up.

    • AlkaliMarxist
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      9 months ago

      I haven't seen the new movie, but I feel like the book deliberately invoked this in the sense of "this is pretty fucked up, right?" Does the movie do it in that sense or like a "wow, what a hero!" way?

      • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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        9 months ago

        the first movie taken on its own could be seen that way but its setting up a second movie which leans more towards the former sense

        • AlkaliMarxist
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          9 months ago

          That's totally fair and I think tracks pretty well with the book.

          spoiler

          It's foreshadowed, but it's not until he get's his Mentat powers in the desert that it becomes clear how Paul's basically manipulating the Fremen knowing that it'll destroy him and them.

    • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      the second part deals with that more explicitly from what I've been told (haven't seen it yet) even though the book didn't deal with it too much until the sequel

      spoilerish

      It comes back to bite paul and he "lives long enough to become the villain" so to speak: https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/dune-2-denis-villeneuve-interview-white-savior