I feel like this show is getting worse. The drama elements have always been lazy as fuck. But the first two seasons had a pretty effective satire of capitalism as a system. Now Vought is just a hollowed out shell under Homelander and the connection between Homelander and Trump is becoming really explicit, so the satire seems to be getting more liberal - it’s not superheroes that are the problem, or the ideology they exist in - we just gotta stop Homelander.
That’s okay, I’ll still keep watching that garbage, because some of the actors are really good at chewing scenery and making the best of what the script gives them - but the show has always felt a bit lazy and it’s starting to feel like it’s running on autopilot now.
That’s the problem with trying to critique real problems using superheroes. They can literally fly across the world and kill everyone who annoys them. At that point capitalism, communism, liberalism, conservatism - none of that shit matters. It all becomes moot because the flying guys can laser you in half on a whim. The ONLY conclusion you can reach is great man theory because humans are powerless, unless you restrict your world to not have superman-level powers and just have shit like super speed, laser eyes, shooting webs - shit that won’t make human existence pointless because they can still exert change.
Andor does this well. They ditched the “chosen one” bullshit and the telekinesis nonsense to tell a story about revolution and imperialism that is actually grounded. The systems and technologies in place don’t make real life obsolete. Of course, if these shows existed in a vacuum then who cares. But they obviously exist to critique real life, so you can’t make everything more powerful than real life.
Right. But I think there was an interesting idea initially when the show seemed to be about, how can a bunch of regular humans systematically hunt down and kill these superheroes. I mean that at least is an interesting inversion. Whereas now it’s lost that element too.
Felt like they were just re-telling the same story/conflict. And I'm with you, the problem was always about hyper capitalist exploitation of powered people and how messed up that would be if it were real.
I feel like this show is getting worse. The drama elements have always been lazy as fuck. But the first two seasons had a pretty effective satire of capitalism as a system. Now Vought is just a hollowed out shell under Homelander and the connection between Homelander and Trump is becoming really explicit, so the satire seems to be getting more liberal - it’s not superheroes that are the problem, or the ideology they exist in - we just gotta stop Homelander.
That’s okay, I’ll still keep watching that garbage, because some of the actors are really good at chewing scenery and making the best of what the script gives them - but the show has always felt a bit lazy and it’s starting to feel like it’s running on autopilot now.
Well, the main creator of the show is also, to my knowledge, a zionist and one of the protagonists is played by Tomer Capone - an IOF butcher.
That’s the problem with trying to critique real problems using superheroes. They can literally fly across the world and kill everyone who annoys them. At that point capitalism, communism, liberalism, conservatism - none of that shit matters. It all becomes moot because the flying guys can laser you in half on a whim. The ONLY conclusion you can reach is great man theory because humans are powerless, unless you restrict your world to not have superman-level powers and just have shit like super speed, laser eyes, shooting webs - shit that won’t make human existence pointless because they can still exert change.
Andor does this well. They ditched the “chosen one” bullshit and the telekinesis nonsense to tell a story about revolution and imperialism that is actually grounded. The systems and technologies in place don’t make real life obsolete. Of course, if these shows existed in a vacuum then who cares. But they obviously exist to critique real life, so you can’t make everything more powerful than real life.
Right. But I think there was an interesting idea initially when the show seemed to be about, how can a bunch of regular humans systematically hunt down and kill these superheroes. I mean that at least is an interesting inversion. Whereas now it’s lost that element too.
I felt the last season was kind of crap.
Felt like they were just re-telling the same story/conflict. And I'm with you, the problem was always about hyper capitalist exploitation of powered people and how messed up that would be if it were real.
Now it's just "homelander bad".