I think that’s people failing to understand this shit is not aimed at FTM or transmac people. Men are trash comes from men being useless, abusive, cheaters, etc. If you are FTM or transmasc you are not the really the type of men they are referring to, unless you think that being a masc person is being a useless shit. Unless they are terfs, and nobody should give a shit about TERFs.
It’s not real men. Why is the asshole piece of shit the real man? What do trans men gain from wanting to associate their masculinity with the godawful masculinity most reasonable men are trying to escape?
If “all men are trash” is a repeated sentiment, you don’t think that might cause a little undue stress for trans men who are pursuing their own masculine identity? As if this wasn’t the point in shaun’s observation - that generalized hatred toward men is not productive and could even be destructive, whereas criticism of toxic masculinity is necessary
The thought of all men being trash is inherently nonsensical. So putting any undue pressure on yourself over that sentiment is a little silly to me. It speaks to a deep seated anger women might have with the men in their lives, and it might be with just cause; but it’s not your responsibility, and asking women to validate your existence doesn’t solve the problem.
Yes exactly, when you refer to men, that includes trans men. To say 'men' and then go 'but we don't mean trans men' is kinda transphobic as it excludes trans men from being men.
Why do they feel caught in the crossfire? Like I don’t think of myself as trash, anymore. In hindsight as a teen and very early twenties, I was a pretty shitty dude. But I have grown, and definitely pull my weight around the house. Meanwhile my father will call my mom to tell her he is hungry. I cook for my wife, clean diapers, do dishes, do chores.
Just be a good dude and don’t let these women angry at their shitty husbands or parents stop you from being a good person.
I think that’s people failing to understand this shit is not aimed at FTM or transmac people. Men are trash comes from men being useless, abusive, cheaters, etc. If you are FTM or transmasc you are not the really the type of men they are referring to, unless you think that being a masc person is being a useless shit. Unless they are terfs, and nobody should give a shit about TERFs.
Isn’t that the problem? This sort of thing labels “real men” as trash, which could cause problems for trans men/trans masc identity
It’s not real men. Why is the asshole piece of shit the real man? What do trans men gain from wanting to associate their masculinity with the godawful masculinity most reasonable men are trying to escape?
If “all men are trash” is a repeated sentiment, you don’t think that might cause a little undue stress for trans men who are pursuing their own masculine identity? As if this wasn’t the point in shaun’s observation - that generalized hatred toward men is not productive and could even be destructive, whereas criticism of toxic masculinity is necessary
The thought of all men being trash is inherently nonsensical. So putting any undue pressure on yourself over that sentiment is a little silly to me. It speaks to a deep seated anger women might have with the men in their lives, and it might be with just cause; but it’s not your responsibility, and asking women to validate your existence doesn’t solve the problem.
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Yes exactly, when you refer to men, that includes trans men. To say 'men' and then go 'but we don't mean trans men' is kinda transphobic as it excludes trans men from being men.
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Why do they feel caught in the crossfire? Like I don’t think of myself as trash, anymore. In hindsight as a teen and very early twenties, I was a pretty shitty dude. But I have grown, and definitely pull my weight around the house. Meanwhile my father will call my mom to tell her he is hungry. I cook for my wife, clean diapers, do dishes, do chores.
Just be a good dude and don’t let these women angry at their shitty husbands or parents stop you from being a good person.
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