https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/01/us/politics/us-bases-alert-level-russia.html

https://archive.ph/laVgN

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    Even the US' intelligence apparatus is a bunch of Putin shills now

    But seriously, no shit lmao. Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

    • Jobasha [comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      They literally think the Russian brainpan is incapable of comprehending democracy due to them assimilating Mongolo-Asiatic authoritarianism genes in the time they were under Mongol rule so probably, yeah.

        • Jobasha [comrade/them]
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          6 months ago

          Damn. I haven't heard this one in uni but I had a professor who was casually peddling Spengler and some other sus figures.

      • Jobasha [comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        Missed all the fun being out for the evening. I just want to inform you that I am not even exaggerating for comedic purposes that much, here is a random video found by typing "mongol influence on russian culture" on google and clicking the video tab. It features bangers such as "It has been several hundred years in their genetic inheritance that authoritarianism is the only solution".

        https://youtu.be/5F45i0v_u6s?t=234

          • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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            6 months ago

            Lol, this guy's entire post history is just him popping into random Hexbear threads to tell us how stupid he thinks we are and then refusing to engage anyone because he thinks we're too stupid for it to be worth his time. A very serious intellectual.

            • itappearsthat
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              6 months ago

              be specific

              if you're referring to the specific thing about Asians (and Russians in particular) having some inherent desire for authoritarian figures, I have personally seen this idea in the book Everything Flows by Vasily Grossman.

              • Wertheimer [any]
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                6 months ago

                Oh, man, I hate Vasily Grossman. Life and Fate is on my shortlist for most overhyped book ever.

                • itappearsthat
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                  6 months ago

                  I actually kinda liked Everything Flows, the first half at least. The second half descends very quickly into incoherent anti-Russian/Soviet rants but the vignette about the Old Bolshevik being sent to the labor camp was very moving.

                  • Wertheimer [any]
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                    6 months ago

                    That one is a lot shorter so maybe I'll give it a shot when I'm in a forgiving mood or want to add to my unwritten essay about how annoying it is that only "dissident" literature gets translated.

              • PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee
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                6 months ago

                Replying to a comment is not specific enough an example for you? Do you think I'm referring to a random comment in a different post or something?

                • itappearsthat
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                  6 months ago

                  Okay, so what about the comment do you take issue with? Do you not believe it is a widely-disseminated idea in the west that Russians & Asians are inherently predisposed toward authoritarianism?

                • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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                  6 months ago

                  if you're referring to the specific thing about Asians (and Russians in particular) having some inherent desire for authoritarian figures, I have personally seen this idea in the book Everything Flows by Vasily Grossman.

                  Is this a good enough reply? Why not engage with that part of their comment?

            • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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              6 months ago

              Like you’ve never heard a harebrained pundit draw a line through the tsars, the evil Soviets, and Putin to conclude “these people simply can not know our enlightened values”

            • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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              6 months ago

              Have you read the comments on reddit-logo?

              It got so bad the mods banned using 'Orcs' as the term to refer to Russians with in the early days of the war. And many redditors cried about that.

              We can argue the semantics of what exact type of dehumanizing language was used, but the overarching point remains.

                • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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                  6 months ago

                  Then what's your complaint here, exactly? People are shitposting and being somewhat hyperbolic, but a lot of liberals have considered Russians subhuman morons since at least the beginning of this war

                  • PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee
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                    6 months ago

                    Oh "it was a joke, bro" is used when being called out as ridiculous here? Ok then.

                    No one thinks anyone is subhuman, except you guys saying it about anyone you don't like.

                    What does Stormfront have to do with anything?

                • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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                  6 months ago

                  Why would you need to go to reddit when you could just browse your own post history

            • emizeko [they/them]
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              6 months ago

              please give us your answer for who you think is responsible for the NordStream 2 bombing so we can laugh at it

            • Spike [none/use name]
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              6 months ago

              I don't see why anyone is even bothering engaging this person with good faith. They're just "trolling" the same way people did back decades ago. Adding "lol" or "lmao" on to everything to pretend they're not upset, not reading anything, calling everyone stupid no matter what is said, always saying "I'm sitting here laughing at you" to again pretend they're not upset. They all ended up being incels and I wouldn't be surprised if this is no different

              • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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                6 months ago

                Look at that username, 100% chance this person is either an incel, or an edgy teenager who will become an incel.

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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              6 months ago

              Hello I'm a fellow good german liberal and I don't want to be infected with commie nonsense, can you point out the nonsense please so I can avoid it?

        • xkyfal18@lemmygrad.ml
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          6 months ago

          just ban these delusional trashlib already, after countless attempts at engagement all this idiot has ever done is smugly laugh and pretend he's smarter than everyone else.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      I particularly love the fact that libs simultaneously believe that Russia is on a brink of collapse and about to roll over Europe as soon as it's done with Ukraine. They see no contradiction there.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

      Yes. You should see the bullshit the European media keeps shoveling.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

      They did unironically think that, yes.

    • Sasuke [comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe

      they definitely do here in europe

      • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]
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        6 months ago

        He has also said that he is proud to have been the first black woman to serve with a black president.

        In general, I would not associate Biden with the word 'intelligence'.

        And yeah, no, if Putin was trying to reestablish the USSR, he would be much better than he is. An anti-colonial power that massively improves its people's lives? Sign me up.

          • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]
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            6 months ago

            Considering that Biden is a lib, your reply, at best, supports the comment that you were replying to.

            Furthermore, you seem to think that this point about Biden somehow contradicts the fact that 'NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine'

            • Hurculina Drubman@lemm.ee
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              6 months ago

              I didn't comment on the post to refute it, I replied to a comment to refute the comment. that's how threads work. anyway

              comment: "Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?"

              me: this lib certainly said he thought so.

              that's how conversations work.

              • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                6 months ago

                He also said he'd seen photographic proof that Hamas had decapitated 40 babies.

                He also said he would cure cancer, I am not joking.

              • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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                6 months ago

                this lib certainly said he thought so.

                Most of us are pretty skeptical he actually did think so, especially considering a lot of experts in his circle have said things that contradict it. Case in point: the article being discussed.

              • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]
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                6 months ago

                I didn't comment on the post to refute it, I replied to a comment to refute the comment

                And all you did is support - not refute - the comment. Just as I said here:

                Considering that Biden is a lib, your reply, at best, supports the comment that you were replying to


                comment: "Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?"
                me: this lib certainly said he thought so.

                Case in point.

      • RustyVenture [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        He also managed to mumble this out during the debate a week ago, too. However, we can't be sure Biden even knows what year it is, so it's unclear if he still believes this hilarious lie or if he thinks it's 2022.

      • Egon
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        5 months ago

        deleted by creator

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      6 months ago

      Ögedei didn't even tried to take Europe, it was a really big scout party which casually obliterated every army they encountered, arrived at Hungary, seen the pushta and considered staying because it reminded them of home and then went back because khan died and new one had to be elected. In the meantime collective Europe was thrown into a state of abject terror not known since Attila the Hun. But of course as soon as it passed, islamophobia kicked in, they started to blabber about Prester John and tried to use Mongols against muslims.

    • Flaps [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Its one of the excuses they use to keep sending weaponry

    • plinky [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      baltic mindset, i'm waiting if that lady will outbang the gardener