I actually like a lot of classic rock (yes even Hotel California, that solo kicks ass) but there is a lot of bad classic rock too. What do you think the worst classic rock song is? What is the most overrated band or artist? I think Supertramp is mid at best, but Bob Seeger is truly dreadful.
When a somebody says rock is the best music you just know that, consciously or not, they're putting "white music" above the rest
Narrator: "Early rock songs were stolen from Black people."
[old footage rolls]
Presenter: "My next guest has been accused of stealing from the ethnic community, but I think that's wholly unjustified. Elvis, everybody!"
Elvis [singing]: "♫ Me and my brothers run away from the cops, from the way we look we know they're gonna stop us... ♫"
Presenter: "Well, that could mean anything..."
Elvis [continuing] "♫ Cause we're Black, Black, Black! ♫"
[presenter groans]
I've seen that video on YouTube too lol.
Multiple hip-hop artists have made triple entendres in multiple songs. I don't think I've ever seen that come out of rock. And even their double entendres are often lazy sex-addled puns. "Hahahaha get it? Pie is like a vaginer!"
Rap and hiphop are lyrically just on their own level compared to any other genre I'm familiar with. that really pissed me off when I figured it out. When i was a kid in the 90s all the (white) adults were droning on and on about "Oh those ignorant rappers they just sing about six and drugs and they don't have any culture they're just violent crime guys" and then a decade later I'm half listening to something on the radio and it's like "Wait did this track just sample Beethoven and make a bunch of references to classical literature and geopolitics?" I was lied too by white reactionaries can you believe that?
I've never met anyone that likes rock for the lyricism. Especially not references. Good rock lyrics are about a story and usually don't have more depth than that. Hip-hop tends to have much better lyrics, but rock tends to have better instrumentals.
If you get into metal you can find some clever lyrics but hip-hop truly has some of the greatest lines ever.
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There's tons of great ones but one of my favorites:
*Where the cash cows actually beef
Blood turns wine when I leak for police
Like 'That's not a riot, it's a feast, let's eat.' *
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I’ve heard madvilliany hundreds of times and idk how I’m just now realizing how clever this is
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You'll see it in more niche rock music. But yeah most popular rock music won't have it.
The only Rock music I can think of off the cuff that really has fun with lyrics is Cake and They might Be Giants and I'm not sure if either of them are actually rock.
TV On The Radio is an art rock band that have some great lyrics. I mean if we're talking about triple entendres, their song "Dirty Whirl" is about a sexual relationship with a woman, Hurricane Katrina, and the Hindu deity/goddess Durga. The first verse introduces it nicely
Right there is a triple entendre. Though some clever lyricism, the "murderess" could be a woman the singer is in a relationship with, a hurricane (likely Katrina given the release time of the song) or Durga. The mother of pearl lyric is particularly clever. Mother of Pearl, also known as nacre, is produced by some molluscs as an inner shell layer. And mollusc shells from the outside appear as a spiral, look at a snail shell for example. Just like a hurricane.
So, it's bad to like rock music, and good to like music preferred by people of color?
It's silly to limit yourself in that way and not explore music in its fullest.
Uh no wtf lol
I said people who make a hierarchy between genres with rock on top are a symptom of deeply ingrained racism
My favourite style of music is filled with problematic right wing politics so no I'm not the kind of person to limit themselves for politics quiet the contrary
Yeah, okay. No real disagreement here. Saying one genre is better than another is often yet another symptom of class and/or racial tensions. The infamous "I listen to every genre but rap and country"