• fox [comrade/them]
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    27 days ago

    The Nazis literally could not have ever won WW2 and anyone who argues against that is way too vested in learning about Nazi campaigns specifically

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      27 days ago

      I think it's the closest you could get to historical determinism. The only way for the Nazis to win was for them to not be Nazis. They lost the war the moment they started it. Germany was doomed even if they never went to war because fascist economics will demand that they do. The whole thing was a fuck because it was fundamental to their ideology.

      There's some scenarios where they could have maybe gotten a draw (like forming an alliance with the US and UK to invade the USSR), but it would have still left them worse off than...not being nazis.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      27 days ago

      The same modern bazingas that believe billionaire vampires will personally invent miracle tech that'll undo the consequences of their own actions also tend to believe that nazi wunderwaffen was that close to turning everything around.

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      27 days ago

      They won against France only because Allied generals thought it was a good idea to stick their neck into an obvious trap, and then German generals decided that they were absolute geniuses and could win whatever they want.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        27 days ago

        Yeah it turns out it really easy to win battles when you just surprise attack unmobilized neutral countries. When countries become mobilized and ally against you, horse carriages and bolt actions no longer cut it.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          27 days ago

          Tiger tanks were the ZYBERTRUKKKS of their time, with similar performance reliability. pit

          • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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            26 days ago

            Dont know about that. Elon would never think to use a train to transport his vehicles with their own wheels. He's going to make a bigger cybertruck (cymi-truck) for you to use on the uberloop.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              26 days ago

              He did claim that it would be easy to make actual combat vehicles out of ZYBERTRUKKKs, so I suppose those fall more into the category of the many, many "wunderwaffen" grifts that were being floated around the Fuhererbunker near the end of the war.

              • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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                26 days ago

                You know, I'd probably pay money to watch cybertrucks drive into battle for America. It'd be hilarious when the transmission gives out and the whole thing just explodes when it gets hit by BBs from an airsoft rifle.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  26 days ago

                  You know, I'd probably pay money to watch cybertrucks drive into battle for America. It'd be hilarious when the transmission gives out and the whole thing just explodes when it gets hit by BBs from an airsoft rifle.

                  my-hero "It's what Judge Dredd would drive" dumpster-fire

                  volcel-judge "No it's not."

        • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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          26 days ago

          No, France was already completely mobilized by the end of 1939, combined forces of France and Britain were stronger than German army, but their military leadership managed to send most of the army straight into encirclement in May 1940. Germans expected a major but limited victory, not a complete destruction of main Allied force, which happened only due to monumental blunders.