• Dolores [love/loves]
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    25 days ago

    who the fuck is still thinking about john mccain fucking hell

        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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          25 days ago

          Heard some lib radio host glaze McCain just yesterday while drivingfor work, called him a war hero

          I couldn't contain my anger so I yelled "HE WAS A WAR CRIMINAL! WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF HERO DROPS NAPALM ON INNOCENT CHILDREN?!?" guts-rage

      • SeekTheDeletion [none/use name]
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        24 days ago

        my lib mom got upset when Trump mocked the USS John McCain cause it was disrespectful to both the man and the troops

        i just don't get libs

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      25 days ago

      who the fuck is still thinking about john mccain fucking hell

      Wasn't there some McCain faildaughter on some LIB talk show that had the credentials of "MY FAAATHER" and whose conversations were varying versions of "MY FAAATHER?" I'm sure she's still at it somewhere.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          25 days ago

          She got her ass fired, didn't she? Didn't they know who HER FAAATHER was?! maybe-later-kiddo

          token dumbass

          That means the rest of The View wasn't dumbasses, right? anakin-padme-2

          • Dolores [love/loves]
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            25 days ago

            i'm not saying anyone on there is an intellectual heavyweight but the few clips i have seen from the view were basically all Mccain getting clowned on by basic liberals lol

      • wild_dog [they/them]
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        25 days ago

        it's funny because it worked with the base, the problem was it was the base of the democrats instead lol

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    25 days ago

    If the initial push into France fails I'm pretty sure the nazis are deeply fucked lmao. I suggest opening 13 more fronts, that always seems to work.

    As for how to win the Iraq war, I would do a billion 9/11s. This is from Saddam's perspective, right?

  • SeekTheDeletion [none/use name]
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    25 days ago

    telling that all of these are reactionary daydreams and fantasies, and there's no progressive alternatives offered or discussed. Here are some of mine:

    What if Lincoln had picked a radical abolitionist as his VP and after his assassination there was a massive anti-southern aristocracy crackdown to enforce reconstruction?

    What if Kruschev didn't win the power struggle and instead Molotov did? What if the sino-soviet split never happened because Kruschev didn't get into power and immediately start shitting on and dismantling socialist achievement?

    What if Stalin didn't stop at Berlin? What if the USSR discovered nukes before the west?

    What if Lenin was not shot and didn't have health complications resulting from that?

    What if the Spartacus Revolt was successful and the German Revolution joined with the USSR?

    What if Napoleon defeated the British at Waterloo? What if Napoleon allied with the Haitians and revolutionaries of the new world instead of turning them into enemies? What if he supported a Haitian-African American take-over of the Louisiana territories?

    • iridaniotter [she/her]
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      25 days ago

      What if temperatures stayed stable in the Paleocene, resulting in the dawn of civilization around paleolake megachad?

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        25 days ago

        Everybody has a really pronounced jawline, nothing else changes.

    • destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml
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      25 days ago

      What if the Spartacus Revolt was successful and the German Revolution joined with the USSR?

      unironically I believe we would all already be living under DOTPs by now cri

      • SeekTheDeletion [none/use name]
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        25 days ago

        WW2 would have looked very different indeed. Socialists vs. Imperialists instead of the weird mishmash of socialists + imperialists vs. newer more vicious imperialists. The victory there would have been a victory for socialism instead of a descent into cold war against an untouched US.

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      25 days ago

      What if Napoleon defeated the British at Waterloo?

      He would be defeated in the next battle. He had already won at Ligny and Quatre Bras, and it didn't bring him a strategic victory, and neither would a victory at Waterloo.

  • fox [comrade/them]
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    25 days ago

    The Nazis literally could not have ever won WW2 and anyone who argues against that is way too vested in learning about Nazi campaigns specifically

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      25 days ago

      I think it's the closest you could get to historical determinism. The only way for the Nazis to win was for them to not be Nazis. They lost the war the moment they started it. Germany was doomed even if they never went to war because fascist economics will demand that they do. The whole thing was a fuck because it was fundamental to their ideology.

      There's some scenarios where they could have maybe gotten a draw (like forming an alliance with the US and UK to invade the USSR), but it would have still left them worse off than...not being nazis.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      25 days ago

      The same modern bazingas that believe billionaire vampires will personally invent miracle tech that'll undo the consequences of their own actions also tend to believe that nazi wunderwaffen was that close to turning everything around.

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      25 days ago

      They won against France only because Allied generals thought it was a good idea to stick their neck into an obvious trap, and then German generals decided that they were absolute geniuses and could win whatever they want.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        25 days ago

        Yeah it turns out it really easy to win battles when you just surprise attack unmobilized neutral countries. When countries become mobilized and ally against you, horse carriages and bolt actions no longer cut it.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          25 days ago

          Tiger tanks were the ZYBERTRUKKKS of their time, with similar performance reliability. pit

          • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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            25 days ago

            Dont know about that. Elon would never think to use a train to transport his vehicles with their own wheels. He's going to make a bigger cybertruck (cymi-truck) for you to use on the uberloop.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              25 days ago

              He did claim that it would be easy to make actual combat vehicles out of ZYBERTRUKKKs, so I suppose those fall more into the category of the many, many "wunderwaffen" grifts that were being floated around the Fuhererbunker near the end of the war.

              • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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                25 days ago

                You know, I'd probably pay money to watch cybertrucks drive into battle for America. It'd be hilarious when the transmission gives out and the whole thing just explodes when it gets hit by BBs from an airsoft rifle.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  24 days ago

                  You know, I'd probably pay money to watch cybertrucks drive into battle for America. It'd be hilarious when the transmission gives out and the whole thing just explodes when it gets hit by BBs from an airsoft rifle.

                  my-hero "It's what Judge Dredd would drive" dumpster-fire

                  volcel-judge "No it's not."

        • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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          24 days ago

          No, France was already completely mobilized by the end of 1939, combined forces of France and Britain were stronger than German army, but their military leadership managed to send most of the army straight into encirclement in May 1940. Germans expected a major but limited victory, not a complete destruction of main Allied force, which happened only due to monumental blunders.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      25 days ago

      But Boogie1488 said le epic science was happening in Mengele's torture playgrounds! smuglord

  • duderium [he/him]
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    25 days ago

    Genre fiction writer here, 99% of genre fiction is fascist.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      25 days ago

      I learned that the hard way with my beta readers with my own work.

      "Why is this so political? Can't it just be about a war with piloted robots?"

      "The main character needs to have her naked body described in detail during a mandatory shower scene." (the character was a malnourished minor) libertarian-alert

      "This is a butchering of the Ramayana. I am insulted by this sloppy portrayal of it." (the Ramayana was mentioned, yes, but it's a total fascist wet dream of a story and I deliberately dunked on its ideals in favor of the much more nuanced, thoughtful, and worthwhile Mahabharata)

      • Poogona [he/him]
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        25 days ago

        Even the Mahabharata is like a thorough endorsement of Patriarchal power structures but it's what makes mythology and its fuzzy ironic (ambivalent?) relationship with its historical context so interesting

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          25 days ago

          Even the Mahabharata is like a thorough endorsement of Patriarchal power structures

          Yes, yes it is. Even after considering how ancient and grounded in patriarchal caste systems it always was, I'm nonetheless deeply impressed by how it plays out in the very long story. There's even a fairly-recent treatment written by a late 1800s writer that gives Draupadi a lot more agency and it was so good that some later theater treatments worked that addition in.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          25 days ago

          I don't mean the modern concept of corporatism merged with a perpetual war economy. I use the term loosely for the mythological roots of typical fascist ideology: the idea of purity, especially purity in a patriarchal sense where a woman held captive by "impure" enemy forces must painstakingly, exhaustively, and perhaps even dangerously prove her "purity" to the patriarchal power. The sheer disposability of the armies at Rama's disposal, Rama's own ubermensch-like portrayal, the seemingly unchallenged militaristic pagaentry and absolutism strokes of the story are also what I meant by that.

          The current right wing political powers in India invoke the Ramayana fairly regularly, and even if they don't have the exact uniforms that were around in WW2, yeah I call that a fascist movement.

          https://theconversation.com/how-narendra-modis-cult-of-personality-was-formed-by-a-powerful-hindu-nationalist-group-with-a-dark-history-225280

          • duderium [he/him]
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            24 days ago

            the idea of purity, especially purity in a patriarchal sense where a woman held captive by "impure" enemy forces must painstakingly, exhaustively, and perhaps even dangerously prove her "purity" to the patriarchal power.

            Maybe not so different from Iphigenia / Isaac.

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        24 days ago

        "The main character needs to have her naked body described in detail during a mandatory shower scene."

        Okay cmon no way did anybody say this to you, right?

        ...please let it be fake...

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          24 days ago

          One of the beta readers that agreed to read a very early draft of the first novel of my trilogy requested exactly that.

          He was in his 60s. He had an adult daughter nearly my own age at the time that had children of her own. He called the naked body description "an inevitability in the genre." He left a punitive middling review, unasked for (I didn't ask him to review the final work), probably because I stood firm and didn't describe a malnourished teenage refugee girl's naked body. agony-4horsemen

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    25 days ago

    "You are Hitler..."

    Inside of reddit-logo there are Hitler particles. They are everywhere there, but are especially concentrated in "what if nazis win and le science victory amirite" Boogie1488 takes. the-more-you-know

  • Rom [he/him]
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    25 days ago

    They're aware John McCain died in 2018 right?

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    25 days ago

    "Hear me out... what if Le Epic John McCain... was actually the Ghost of Kiev?" so-true

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    24 days ago

    The soviet union would have to not exist for the nazis to win, I think. Even without allied forces drawing german war materials away from the eastern front, there's no way they coulda beat the red army, I'm pretty sure.

    Also though the nazis were gonna invade places that would bring them into conflict with the allies anyway, lol lmao

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    24 days ago

    Ah yes, the Battle of France. Where you had that one general doing that maneuver.