for example all time greats are:
Intersectionality is opposed Marxism
Queer Theory is opposed to Marxism
Postmodernism is opposed to Marxism
Postcolonialism is opposed to Marxism
Feminism is opposed to Marxism
Identity politics exists because of Stalinism
it's all just shit like that, they seem to fundamentaly oppose any theory after Lenin.
I've tried arguing wih them for example about Intersectionslity, but they just say that it can't incorporate class because then they wouldn't need to use it anymore because it is the only thing that matters.
all reform is useless because it doesn't remove capitalism(black liberation, lgbt+ liberation?)
They now try to explain foucault and described him as anti-marxist.(turns out that's true)
"Queer Theorie says it is reactionary to be cis." "intersectionality leads to infighting about who is the most opressed"
They use postmodernism and idealism as some kind of slurs for ideas and all of the above is idealist, only the material ever matters. Idealism is petit-burgoise, post-modern nonsense
Also they are explicitly anti-pluralist in their organisation and don't want to do anything except growing by recruiting students. Like I can't even convince them to go help the foodbank.
Because these people(at hte foodbank) are apparently too pre-occupied with survuval to educate themselves about marxism. So any energy on them is wasted. They can't be useful as activists and we must grow first before we can help people. (which is a shit reason)
They also say shit like that all opression is based on class, and that intersectionality splits the working class and should be avoided. That privileges don't exist because you can't make individuals responsible for opression because it all comes from above.
This video explains what is happening here. It's their exact points.
They only ever go somewehere to hand out flyers, not for support. (one guy actually said we couldn't go to the foodbank beecause we would have to do work there and couldn't just hand out flyers)
I don't know if still have the energy to fight against this bullshit and I've read some more about intersectionality but, they've "indoctrinated" themselves about this shit for years and i am not making any progress. It makes me angry and tired.
god this sounds like an org I was part of. Get out. These guys just like feeling smart and being in charge, Marxism is just a thing to lord over people for them. Also the leader of the org was later uncovered to be a fed so lolololol. There isn't any revolutionary potential in these orgs.
They also always talk about how they have the best takes and shit. They also collect a bunch of money for the org, as charity, but i told them i had no money.(which i really don't have)
i think i know the org you're talking about, and they tried to sell me their newsletter. i declined and then the guy came back five minutes later and gave me one for free anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯
we really really need an actual marxist party around here
When i first radicalized they were the only org in my geographic area, wondering now if they were the reason they were the only one.
i wouldn't be surprised. if your city is like mine (it might even be mine lol) you'll find a lot of the opposite - people who just do the work and aren't building a party or thinking about growth at all. i tend to hang around that crowd more, and am hoping summer or covid improvement will allow for some organizing
If you call them fightback, you are sadly in the wrong continent.
oh damn they really are that universally cringe, huh?
What kind of shit are they doing in NA?
they've covered for and denied at least one sexual assault within their org, are notoriously bad at working with unions and other groups, and from this post it looks like they've got the same class reductionist shit as your bunch
in my area i don't even know if any of their members are workers; they all look like students to me
Here they explicitly focus on only recruiting students. Apparently to focus on educating them, but the thing is. They never do anything with their orgs. Also ew to the SA. I've been a member for half a year or so and as far as i can see they've done jackshit. I can work with bad theory as long as praxis still happens, but neither is there and they also actively oppose doing anyhting. Sorry for ranting a bit. Thanks for the answer.
Edit:reading that comment from that ex member is like looking in a mirror, thanks for the link.
yeah ouch, sucks that there isn't anything better for either of us
here are more
Sadly their membership frequents my favourite bar, so i'll still see them. (Post-corona)
Let's see what's in the future. i've already been warned that another org around here also is some weird cult.
I was at first thinking of trying a bit longer to convince them to do anything that's not selling papers, but now i don't think i will. as a member i have access to all their planning documents, and it really is just no praxis wanted.
Thinking about sending these links to members to see how they react.