Don't be a cultural morlock living in reaction against whatever is popular. They're westerns with magic, shit isn't trying to be high art.
Hand-wringing over media consumption is the 69th type of liberalism.
But I don't think anyone here has been pontificating about the immorality of watching superhero movies because they're problematic or any radlib shit like that. We just like pointing out that they're soulless corporate slop.
Even with movies that blatantly shill for the military, though, watching movies is a morally neutral act.
I think people are right to complain. It's not just boring, it's corporate slop that actively damages people's worldview and ability to think critically.
The dweebs who think Endgame is high art are not (yet) equipped to appreciate actual high art. A lot of them are literal children.
A lot of them are literal children.
"If only that were so." -- Obi-Wan Kenobi
That's a question I've been asking about myself for like a decade. Like all nerds I consider myself a pretty smart dude but most of the supposed high literature never really worked for me. I make occasional attempt to get into serious novels but it never sticks and I return to my hard sci-fi books.
Maybe it's sheltered nerd life that prevents us from relating to human drama? Maybe being a nerd is being on the autism spectrum just a tiny bit? I dunno.
On the other hand I watch a lot of high-brow movies but more of bizarre surreal kind, less of a "intimate character study of a family going through separation" kind.
get over it? no one is stopping you from enjoying the spandex and explosions to your hearts content.
criticism of shitty politics in popular media is a good thing
I mean yeah, sure. The amount of leftists I see defaulting to "this shit is popular, therefore I hate it" is just :cringe: though lol
k.
but youre complaining about "people complaining about something for being popular" because those complaints, in their popularity, have become grating, no?
stop being a cultural morlock about being a cultural morlock
look at my username and then get back to me with a re-evaluated opinion.
:sicko-yes:
superhero movies are great mindless fun and i miss watching them with my friend at the cinema :sadness:
right? it's entertaining pulp shit with explosions. I get being stoked when something has explicitly leftist themes, but expecting that from all media is fucking stupid lol
great fucking payoff and a lot of fun. they somehow managed to stick the landing after 11+ years, that's dope as fuck.
for real, it really fucking doesn't. it's the same shit as people complaining about reality tv. shit is just pulp and that's fine. it's also kinda cool they've managed to string together an assload of movies semi-coherently.
I always remember the movie Man of Steel where Superman and the bad guy fly around a city ramming each other into stuff until Superman gets the bad guy on the ground and just breaks his neck. :wut:
I don't really have that much of a problem with capeshit itself, it's the smarminess the characters have when they do those formulaic quips that I dislike a lot. There's much better fun slop out there that isn't so excessively not good. It might not be trying to be high art but that doesn't mean it has to aim so low.
Bitching about capeshit is kinda passe but there is a difference between superhero movies and westerns. One of the draws of westerns is that they could be made on the cheap. This allowed for a fair bit of experimentation and a lot of up and coming directors cut their teeth on westerns. On the other hand I don't think there's been a successful cape flick (played straight) that cost less than like 60 million bucks to make.
On the other hand I don’t think there’s been a successful cape flick (played straight) that cost less than like 60 million bucks to make.
Lots of Beat'em'Up action movies with people in capes/using super powers. I'd have to dig around for a full list that meets the "Under $60M and counts as Successful", but consider M.Night Shamalayan's "Unbreakable". That should qualify.
consider M.Night Shamalayan’s “Unbreakable”.
Budget - $75 million
Maybe it's a trick question. I guess, mid-budget and low-budget movies are their own niche and they succeed by giving the audience something they don't get with blockbusters, not by making Spiderman, but with worse effects...
I guess part of the problem is the $60M budget line.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/budgets/all/1001
I had to go out over a thousand movies before I could find one under $60M.
That said, as soon as I did, I found Deadpool. Also, two Superman movies and Blade 2. V for Vendetta and some of the Resident Evil movies are down here, as well.
I demand fucking high art I'm a postmodern human! I will flex my critical muscle on as much cape shit as I like
OMG I finally found someone like me on this site!
Why won't they just let people enjoy things?
Extra upboats for you, good sir! You won the internet today. Who's your favorite hero? Mine is Captain America and Spiderman!
