Dude’s an ultra
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I guess the Deprogram guys are the Three Stooges now? But the joke doesn’t really work
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Dude’s an ultra
Bonus: https://nitter.net/uncle_authority/status/1721967810241335347#m
I guess the Deprogram guys are the Three Stooges now? But the joke doesn’t really work
i love red sails, but RD needs to shut the fuck up on twitter. or maybe focus on promoting theory and engaging in legitimate, helpful criticism instead of smearing other socialist content creators on the pettiest straw man shit
Hakim, the guy who makes a podcast with a patsoc and a Zizek supporter is a real socialist who shouldn’t be critiqued?
it’s not that he shouldnt be critiqued, it’s that this “critique” is just an uncharitable misinterpretation backed up by a Lenin excerpt that’s only relevant in the context of the misinterpretation
I don't understand, Zizek has good and bad information that can be easily taken from his analysis like taking the wheat from the chaff, but patsoc? What does that even mean in this context? I know what patsoc means, but how has that come forward in any of their creations or their perspectives? As far as I can tell as an enjoyer of their media (all three, not even sure if you mean Yugopnik or Second Thought) I've not encountered any sense of anyone having a PatSoc perspective.
SecondThought is a patsocs since he is in the patsoc CPUSA. A group that uses terminology like “Bill of Rights” and doesn’t promote land back ideology. Those two things (especially lacking land back as a fundamental tenet of socialist movements in the US) come off to me as egregious symbols of patsocism. I don’t see any way that someone could be in a group that calls themsleves socialist while using American terms like that and ignoring land back in the US could only be that. I don’t think Yugopnik is patsoc even though I dislike him still
For all the criticisms of the CPUSA, of which I have many, I don't think ascribing him the entirety of it's failings is quite fair; especially when considering that he is simply a contributor to and not a member of the CPUSA as far as I'm aware. I think you're putting the horse before the carriage, he's simply a ML, Jackson Hinkle and Infrahaz are examples of explicit "Patsoc"s and the gap between them and Second Thought is comically wide. If the charge is simply that he's contributed to CPUSA, then, okay? I don't think that's the same as being able to accurately label him as under the same banner as these kinds of ramblings below
PatSocs are bad because they adopt ML ideas and twist them into allowing racism, sexism, and queerphobia to run amock in their communities. They don't build anything and instead create cults with leaders like Lyndon LaRouche; as much as I disagree with CPUSA's direction and completely ineffectual leadership, I think considering JT due to his proximity to be on a similar level to Lyndon LaRouche is a wild overcorrection.
Additionally, I should note that when I was a member of CPUSA everyone was very clear that all the LaRouchites, Haz fans, and Borgar King Caleb Maupin appreciators had no place in that space. I think you should criticize CPUSA in order to find the correct line, but I think you may not be using a common definition for Patsoc when it includes CPUSA
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Eugh, Sam Webb, what a dickhead. Yeah, no, I don't know if patsoc would be the correct term or be translateable to other people as it's already got a pretty set definition, but there is no room for "American" patriotism. It's weird, frankly, maybe I'm abnormal but the US just makes me feel icky now. I don't know what comes after but I hope it's not the United States.
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