Join and make it less lib. It’s that easy.

The only way you’d make it more lib is if you think you’re more lib than DSA 😳 👀

To those of you requesting I move my posts proselytizing people about joining an organization over to /strugglesession I have but one thing to say:

Join an organization

To those who repeat the line “I believe in democratic centralism so I won’t join” I say: so do I. If that’s such a sticking point for you to not join DSA, which organization practicing democratic centralism are you currently a part of?

Do you think Lenin or Mao woke up one day with a perfectly structured organization laying at their feet comprised of only those who held similar beliefs to them? Of course they didn’t. They crafted and cultivated these organizations and revolutionary mindsets for decades before seeing the fruits of their labor. If you aren’t organizing you are not only not a revolutionary, you are a counterrevolutionary. Are you waiting for a perfect movement to be waiting at the foot of your bed one morning instead of putting in the labor to craft one you see as suitably revolutionary? Not to even scold you, but factually your absence from organization based on personal ideology favors only the capitalist and harms only your comrades.

  • aerides [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    this is literally what entryism means and it is widely recognized to be a terrible strategy. the organization will change you, not the other way around.

    I am ambivalent about whether the DSA is too lib or not but when people complain about trots it's because they waste time on stupid crap like this and wind up as neocons

      • aerides [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        saying "organizations change from the inside" isn't the same as "we should join an organization to change it from the inside"

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          What the actual fuck. If this is the best that the USA can get to the mainstream, third worldism becomes more true day by day. Even the neoliberal ANC in my country practices a form of democratic centralisation. (A hold over from their more radical days, but still)

          • JuneFall [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            The radical history of South Africa is pretty impressive, the amount of skill and purpose that existed is mind numbing. There are few places more apt to show intersecting aspects of capitalist repression than the history and the resistance, too.

            I can only wonder how a post apartheid could've looked without a crash of the Soviet Union and viable alternatives to neoliberal WMF and chicago school policies. A radical ANC(?) could've been a huge stepping stone for economic democracy in the country.