(I swear didn't watch it I just scrubbed through it please don't take me to the gulag)

EDIT: Link, in case you have an hour and forty minutes and hate yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7aWz8q_IM4

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This is really all silly and dumb. Cancel culture isn't real. If it was outrage alone would have buried Donald Trump, PewDiePie, and Jordan Peterson by now. Anybody with some power and wealth will do fine, no amount of death threats will touch them. Your average person getting "canceled" should fall under harassment and stalking, but the American justice system in its continued failure to protect will never defend a victim that's alive. Because the cops don't have an obligation to protect you. People losing their jobs over viral tweets and shit is also unfortunate, but most of it "depends". Somebody in retail talking mad shit about their rude customers doesn't deserve to get fired. Somebody in a gatekeeping position like healthcare saying that all Black patients are just drug addicts deserves to be immediately removed before possibly costing someone their life. I'll give her this point, Twitter sucks and precisely the reason I have my tweets protected. Social media is a goddamn mistake. Most people don't have nearly the courage they have online to say rude shit to other people to their faces.

    • GaySexHaver69 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      cancel culture is absolutely real and anyone who denies it is a coward who can't stand by their beliefs/actions and it's honestly gaslighting

      • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        If you are in a cemented position of power, no amount of outrage will actually get you removed from that position. Secondly, the removal of one individual person operating within a racist and exploitative system is not going to fix the system itself. There is no such thing as cancel culture for the people that truly need to be canceled. There is no such thing as accountability. Look at the metoo movement. It was used as a sledgehammer against a couple of famous celebrities and creeps in various positions of power; but as soon as the Tara Reade allegations came to light, they burned that shit to the ground.

        anyone who denies it is a coward who can’t stand by their beliefs/actions and it’s honestly gaslighting

        What the fuck does this even mean, lmao. How the fuck am I gaslighting someone for saying accountability at the tippy top of the class system is not real. It's not. People go after C-List youtubers because that's all the fucking power they have. And instead of realizing she said something mean and stupid, she doubles down and hides behind anonymous Vietnamese content creators saying "what you said wasn't that big a deal".

        • GaySexHaver69 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          It's gaslighting to say cancel culture doesn't exist, because it obviously fucking does, there's a sizable portion of people who go out of their way to try and get people cancelled, ie; removed from public society or generally punished for saying things they disagree with. Like you are still trying to do with Lindsay right now. Saying that there's too much unfair backlash against it is one thing but to say it flat out isn't real is absolutely gaslighting. It's trying to manipulate people's minds, making them doubt their own experiences.

          And i'm sorry, but nothing she said in the original tweet is incorrect or offensive, you will not make me buckle. Raya isn't "Asian Art" it's a fucking disney product, and the similarities between it and avatar go beyond being vaguely asian. Honest trailers made the same observation and they didn't get any notable backlash, because:

          • they weren't wrong

          • their fans aren't on twitter as much

          • People weren't already mad at them for not cutting ties with contrapoints when they were cancelling her for the "crime" of getting someone with one bad opinion but is mostly known as "the dude with the pussy" to read a line in her video

          There is no such thing as cancel culture for the people that truly need to be canceled.

          That's moving the goalposts. Just because it's not effective against truly powerful people doesn't mean it doesn't existl. It just means you're not good at cancelling 😎. Also, Todd in the Shadows is not anonymous.