https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/m7aywq/simpsons-fans-prefer-new-seasons
not liking the old animation
This must be what it's like to see the mirror universe version of yourself. I absolutely hate the CalArts art style and Adobe Flash-based animation techniques that dominate modern carrtoons. Give me that 80s/90s shit all day, even low quality stuff where they're constantly reusing shots and just painting a new background (and the background is often pretty blurry so you don't focus too hard on it) looks better than 90% of what's coming out now.
Yeah, newer cartoons look like flat, paper puppets. Everything is too on model and lifeless.
The fun part about animation used to be how you could exaggerate expressions and movements. That happens less and less now, outside of things like Adventure Time
Spongebob is cool but it (like the Simpsons, come to think of it) is a window into the degeneration of animation that I'm talking about. The art gets better for the first couple seasons as the budget goes up and the show's creators get into their groove, but as it drags on into season ten or twenty you can see the quality bleeding off over time.
The direction of the show went to shit too, but that's a different problem.
I agree. When I say Spongebob I really mean the first few seasons culminating in the first movie. The quality of writing and animation starts dropping off after that
Yeah I watched a S2 simpsons last night (bart the daredevil) and noticed they reused a scene from their opening title for a scene in the show, and i still thought it was one of the better things i have seen in a cartoon in years(showing the kids playing outside, they resuse the animation of bart skateboarding through the park, but with some other kid). There seemed to be more heart in it when compared to the really crisp styles of animation today
lmao Erin, one of their advocates for the newer seasons, admits that she hasn't watched Simpsons in years. Vice has scraped beyond the bottom of the barrel and are tunneling into some buried dog shit.
A lot of boomer energy in this thread. There are a lot of quality cartoons nowadays (not talking about Simpsons of course). Claiming 80s toy commercials were better is just nostalgia.
yeah survivorship bias is a bitch
I'm really into old 70's and 80's music, and I can tell you that popular music back then was often terrible. Not every band was the fucking Cars. Much of it was irredeemable shit like Exile and the Human League.
I'd say it's even worse. 80s were a tail end of what's considered dark age of tv animation. I'd rather watch a random modern show than 80s classics like He-man or whatever the hell. Things did pick up in the nineties though.
Am I too picky, or are TV shows never all that great?
There are like four really good Sopranos episodes. I get that it would be cheesy to have every episode be highly narratively involved, but it's otherwise a pile of Freudian melodrama. Despite all that, The Sopranos has been the only artsy dramatic TV show that I could really enjoy. Breaking Bad and GOT were all pretty meh, and I doubt I'm going to like The Wire or The West Wing.
Maybe my mind isn't into drama, or maybe it's just far too easy for a writer to make a drama unwatchable. I don't know.
I've noticed that I tend to enjoy dark comedies and satires far more than other things, so it could be a divide in personal preference that makes me harshly judge the award bait drama shows. But regardless of genre, I haven't found a show that seems as experientially perfect to me as the fifth most popular ELO song, or as engaging as the novel Brave New World.
The wire is actually pretty good. But overall, yes, you're right. Even star Trek TNG (and ds9), which are overall incredible shows, have more than half the episodes barely worth watching.
hey, I might be in a snobbish mood, but that doesn't mean I have good taste :P
I think drama is just very easy to write because there's so many cliches. I like breaking bad, but season 2 felt like a silly soap opera at times with his convoluted the drama was
I'll give em' the animation thing, sometimes it did kinda suck.
The writing more than made up for it of course, buuutttt...
i like the old shit way better. everything now is uniform and sterile. it's all computerized and loses a lot of the character.
As someone who prefers Load/Reload-era Metallica, I see kindred spirits in these people.
I don't think it's really comparable, the reason Load/Reload were disliked wasn't because they were bad (they were actually pretty good by most standards) but because they weren't Metallica.
One of the first things i burned to disk when i first started pirating is season 2-8 of The Simpsons because of how much i loved them, and now i have to see people like this :sadness-abysmal:
