A lot of boomer energy in this thread. There are a lot of quality cartoons nowadays (not talking about Simpsons of course). Claiming 80s toy commercials were better is just nostalgia.
I'm really into old 70's and 80's music, and I can tell you that popular music back then was often terrible. Not every band was the fucking Cars. Much of it was irredeemable shit like Exile and the Human League.
I'd say it's even worse. 80s were a tail end of what's considered dark age of tv animation. I'd rather watch a random modern show than 80s classics like He-man or whatever the hell. Things did pick up in the nineties though.
Am I too picky, or are TV shows never all that great?
There are like four really good Sopranos episodes. I get that it would be cheesy to have every episode be highly narratively involved, but it's otherwise a pile of Freudian melodrama. Despite all that, The Sopranos has been the only artsy dramatic TV show that I could really enjoy. Breaking Bad and GOT were all pretty meh, and I doubt I'm going to like The Wire or The West Wing.
Maybe my mind isn't into drama, or maybe it's just far too easy for a writer to make a drama unwatchable. I don't know.
I've noticed that I tend to enjoy dark comedies and satires far more than other things, so it could be a divide in personal preference that makes me harshly judge the award bait drama shows. But regardless of genre, I haven't found a show that seems as experientially perfect to me as the fifth most popular ELO song, or as engaging as the novel Brave New World.
The wire is actually pretty good. But overall, yes, you're right. Even star Trek TNG (and ds9), which are overall incredible shows, have more than half the episodes barely worth watching.
I think drama is just very easy to write because there's so many cliches. I like breaking bad, but season 2 felt like a silly soap opera at times with his convoluted the drama was
A lot of boomer energy in this thread. There are a lot of quality cartoons nowadays (not talking about Simpsons of course). Claiming 80s toy commercials were better is just nostalgia.
yeah survivorship bias is a bitch
I'm really into old 70's and 80's music, and I can tell you that popular music back then was often terrible. Not every band was the fucking Cars. Much of it was irredeemable shit like Exile and the Human League.
I'd say it's even worse. 80s were a tail end of what's considered dark age of tv animation. I'd rather watch a random modern show than 80s classics like He-man or whatever the hell. Things did pick up in the nineties though.
Am I too picky, or are TV shows never all that great?
There are like four really good Sopranos episodes. I get that it would be cheesy to have every episode be highly narratively involved, but it's otherwise a pile of Freudian melodrama. Despite all that, The Sopranos has been the only artsy dramatic TV show that I could really enjoy. Breaking Bad and GOT were all pretty meh, and I doubt I'm going to like The Wire or The West Wing.
Maybe my mind isn't into drama, or maybe it's just far too easy for a writer to make a drama unwatchable. I don't know.
I've noticed that I tend to enjoy dark comedies and satires far more than other things, so it could be a divide in personal preference that makes me harshly judge the award bait drama shows. But regardless of genre, I haven't found a show that seems as experientially perfect to me as the fifth most popular ELO song, or as engaging as the novel Brave New World.
The wire is actually pretty good. But overall, yes, you're right. Even star Trek TNG (and ds9), which are overall incredible shows, have more than half the episodes barely worth watching.
I'm a breaking bad fan and butthurt
hey, I might be in a snobbish mood, but that doesn't mean I have good taste :P
I think drama is just very easy to write because there's so many cliches. I like breaking bad, but season 2 felt like a silly soap opera at times with his convoluted the drama was