• Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      4 years ago

      He had a debate with ChaosIsMel, a Korean trans woman where among other things he did the usual "U deny genocide you fucking fascist" schtick as well as "joking" about how "we(the american empire) dabbed on North Korea(genocided 20% of the population", and then also basically afterwards commented that her changing inflection at points in the debate was a manipulative and abuser tactic cause some of his fans started agreeing with her and that cant be true cause vaush is the epitomy of facts and logic.

      • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yikes. I'd seen the "they got dabbed on" comment but I didn't see that other part.

        "What if Ben Shapiro but he wanted socialised healthcare?" is a good bit.

        • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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          4 years ago

          It was incredibly disturbing, Vaush fans were making posts about abuse by family members or ex's and projecting that onto Mel for again, supposedly having manipulated her voice in a debate to get people over to her side, which is the mildest fucking tactic you could have in a debate bro setting like holy shit.

          • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Weaponising abuse terminology is genuinely one of the things I've seen online that actually makes my blood boil. It's almost always done to make the victim look like the "real" abuser too.

            Doubly so when it involves trans people just because of the common framing of their existence somehow being an invasion of women's spaces, or somehow "teaming up" with men to avoid abuse. Their very existence is treated as a form of abuse.

            Damn, someone's voice changed when someone callously mocks their country being destroyed. What an abuser.