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    • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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      (I think the economy doing really well in the 90s explains the drop off in gun deaths and mass shootings, not the ban).

      particularly the gun deaths that were reduced was handguns, which were not subject to the AWB.

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  • HarryLime [any]
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    do stricter gun control laws make it harder for a proletariat revolution?

    I don't think it matters either way, and I don't think the outcome of an attempted proletarian revolution will be decided by small arms.

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    1. The pigs won't disarm themselves.

    2. The pigs won't disarm their fascist drinking buddies either.

  • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]
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    Against. Basically all of the modern gun laws carve out exceptions for the police (sometimes even when they are off duty). Even besides that, the guns that get restricted the most also have the smallest percentage of gun deaths linked to them. The vast majority of gun deaths are from handguns.

    According to Pew Research, "Rifles ... were involved in 3% of firearm murders. Shotguns were involved in 1%.". So even if we banned all long guns, we would get at most a 4% reduction in gun deaths. And even if we did ban them, guns are surprisingly easy to manufacture and enforcement is hard.

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    Personally against because I'm in the US and it's never going to happen anyway. If there is actually a revolution in the seat of the empire somehow, all the domestic gun violence along the way will have actually been worth it. I'm expecting the guns just make this country's fascist turn more inevitable as the CIA/FBI stoke gun violence and the general trend keeps everyone terrified of each other and paranoid, and they probably make our subsequent invasion/occupation/re-education more difficult for whichever countries undertake that project. Probably better off xi-plz

    Obviously there's a lot of other hurdles besides guns being available. There's plenty of guns in army reserves if there were somehow a viable revolution making gains and winning hearts/minds. Maybe it makes revolution harder, eg if in practice the privately held guns are only owned by fascists or liberals whom capital has given skin in the game & incessantly propagandized to keep loyal.

  • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
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    A better society would be one where the public, the police, and the military have all been disarmed. It is a distant utopia, but one that I hope is possible.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    Lax gun control laws guarantee more vigilante violence, as easily juiced up young people fed from the trough of fascism and terrorize their neighbors.

    Strict gun control laws guarantee harassment of the proletariat for any attempt to arm themselves by police as fearful as they are incompetent.

    So its a hard choice, but also an easy one. Simply adding another wrinkle to the legal code won't change our habit of killing one another. The laws don't matter in the end. And even if they did, they are utterly beyond our ability to control.

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    I am for stricter gun control laws

    I've already effort commented why before so I'm not gonna do it again but this APL article mirrors most of the same opinions I hold though I had a more data driven analysis of it and didn't consider to argue against Marx's "under no pretext" quote

    https://redphoenixnews.com/2023/08/18/clearing-the-air-on-infantile-u-s-gun-culture-marx-revisited/

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        I'm pretty sure stricter gun control laws almost always mean tighter restrictions on semi-automatic rifles, which the article mentions btw

        Handguns make sense for self defense and I'm all for that black homeless man having a glock

        I don't see any reason how something like an AR would make sense for self defense. They're unwieldy, heavy, takes more training, can't be concealed, etc. but it's amazing if you wanna conduct a mass shooting

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          • GaveUp [she/her]
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            Wow that's insane I didn't know you could 3d print attachments for handguns like that

            For the record I don't agree with everything the article says, especially the background checks on all arms

            I generally just agree on banning semi-automatics, though if widespread knowledge of how to make a handgun more deadly then it would not be very helpful

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