Demanding an End to Uyghur Oppression
jacobinmag.com
We can oppose the saber-rattling and militarism of the US’s China hawks without downplaying the oppression of the Uyghur people.

Aren't there sources other than Adrian Zenz to use in this sort of centrist-socialist article? ('Xinjiang oppression is real but stop doing imperialism over it')

  • gowanus_canal [any]
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    4 years ago

    no discussion at all about the US trying to arm or radicalize Uyghurs to destabilize China, as they have done for decades with religious or ethnic factions in the middle east to destabilize governments. i believe osama bin laden was a CIA asset at one point. "moderate rebels" etc.

    it was openly discussed by one retired army colonel and former state dept. official lawrence wilkerson in 2018. he specifically mentions disrupting the road and belt initiative running through xinjiang.

    U.S. Admits to Using Uyghurs in Xinjiang to Destabilize China

    of course this was the "ron paul institute" so he could just be a kook

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      this article dedicated to brave mujahideen uighur fighters of afghanistan xinjiang :joker-dancing:

      • Shitbird [any]
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        4 years ago

        they have always been SucDems right? That ideology is pretty infamous historically for being imperialist

    • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I have seen that whole talk like three times. Laurence Wilkerson is awesome and is probably worth trusting more than any reporter on this stuff. Turns out that there is a whole set of Libertarians who do better anti-imperialist discussions than anyone on the left. The grayzone interviews them pretty regularly. The recent Push Back interview with Scott Horton was good.

      • CommCat [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Wilkerson used to appear regularly on TheRealNewsNetwork with Paul Jay, he's informative in understanding how the State Department/MIC manufactures consent in Imperialist adventures. He was one of Colin Powel's top guys in leading the US invasion of Iraq which he now regrets. He's not a leftist, he even jokingly called Paul Jay a Marxist.

        • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          I'm aware of that, I shouldn't have said "he's awesome" but it is awesome to have someone with his access to information become an anti-war advocate. A lot of information about US foreign policy seems to come from ex-military people questioning their values.

          • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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            4 years ago

            it's the simping for libertarians, for me. i'm sorry i've just seen murray bookchin dismissed by MLs because he palled around with right libertarians, so it reads as corny

            • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              "this libertarian war nerd knows about US strategy and leftists have an interest in this" != "libertarians are good"
              sure i'm corny af

    • GreenDream [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wz5syVNZs The whole talk - this clip is from the end.