Imo any USSR , be it anarchist , socdem or neoliberal would have those reactionary and backwards views socialy for decades on end. Its not some feature of that system or of marxism leninism more so that it was a direct result of a wholy illetaraty , deeply religious (with the orthodox church being a hugely significant factor ) and middle ages society up untill the revolution. They never went through any liberal phase on any level before that. Thats not to say that the party tried to be progressive on lgbt or help them but failed but that too was a byproduct of that society at that point in time
When you compare it to socialism built on less backwards,less religious, more educated and more advanced socioeconic foundations like eastern Germany you can see progressivness on this topic ahead of even western liberal democracies at that time.Better than its direct capitalist counterpart, west germany. Cuba too ,after initial mistakes , managed to crush machismo and social conservativism and it has been very solid regarding lgbt+ issues copared to any country on the region and even compared to many western ones
Agreed. I think there is a reason why Marx postulated things as progressive phases, and he was explicit of the freedoms each subsequent one brings. But I think this also tells us, that these are not things we should take for granted, and that we should be taking an active position on these things. Your comparison on Cuba taking action on this vs. the "Bourgeoise degeneracy" stand of Eastern Europe is a good example of this.
Imo any USSR , be it anarchist , socdem or neoliberal would have those reactionary and backwards views socialy for decades on end. Its not some feature of that system or of marxism leninism more so that it was a direct result of a wholy illetaraty , deeply religious (with the orthodox church being a hugely significant factor ) and middle ages society up untill the revolution. They never went through any liberal phase on any level before that. Thats not to say that the party tried to be progressive on lgbt or help them but failed but that too was a byproduct of that society at that point in time
When you compare it to socialism built on less backwards,less religious, more educated and more advanced socioeconic foundations like eastern Germany you can see progressivness on this topic ahead of even western liberal democracies at that time.Better than its direct capitalist counterpart, west germany. Cuba too ,after initial mistakes , managed to crush machismo and social conservativism and it has been very solid regarding lgbt+ issues copared to any country on the region and even compared to many western ones
Agreed. I think there is a reason why Marx postulated things as progressive phases, and he was explicit of the freedoms each subsequent one brings. But I think this also tells us, that these are not things we should take for granted, and that we should be taking an active position on these things. Your comparison on Cuba taking action on this vs. the "Bourgeoise degeneracy" stand of Eastern Europe is a good example of this.