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  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    would lowkey enjoy a good faith examination of russian imperial colonial policy in central asia / siberia & its continuities or comtinuation in the Soviet period

    how.much you wana bet this tweeter means soviet support of cuba and african states as the colonialism tho... or god forbid the warsaw pact

    • discontinuuity [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      In Tuva you had kulaks writing songs about how the Soviets "stole" their horses for collective farms , but Tuvans also wrote their own version of The Internationale. Also one of the most famous Tuvan musicians spent "33 years in work camps for 3 counts of murder and corruption of a minor however this remains a heavily debated topic as he maintained his innocence all throughout his life." So the short answer is: people are complicated and no culture is a monolith.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I would define it as Feudal-Imperial-Colonial, closer to pre-capitalist imperial settlement and extraction, though of course in the 19th century an element of Settler Colonialism appeared with the railroads.

      While extraction continued under the Soviets, and there is a critique to be made, Lenin was pretty clear on national liberation, often to a fault as in Ukraine.

      • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        i didnt think you needed capitalism or roads for settler colonialism.. just movement of folk and conquest, and genocide or other bad things for the original folk. im not terribly knowledgable but like, how else did so many russians get to be living in kazakstan and other places ?

        • RealAssHistoryHours [he/him,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          The early Bolsheviks acknowledged the settlement of Russians in northern Kazakhstan as a colonial act by the Russian empire. And in the early days of the Civil war they consciously pursued policy they even called "decolonization" which was a rather radical pursuit of resettlement of ethnic Russians out of Kazakhstan to ensure Kazakh territorial and ethnic sovereignty.

          This was basically all but reversed under collectivization, where a population of semi-nomadic pastoralists was forced to sedentarize or flee and the land was appropriated by the state to resettle ethnic Russians there for sedentary agricultural production. A demographic shift that was only very recently overcome in Kazakhstan where now Kazakhs are once again the majority ethnic group.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Like Racism, there's a dichotomy of terms. Sometimes it's used for the general term of conquest and settlement (ie, Romans and Vikings and Bantu and Mongols and Venetian Trade Colonies in the Crimea are all "Settler Colonial").

          Sometimes it's used for the complex, initially Anglo-Hispanic economic drivers and sustainers of large scale settlement and capitalist accumulation with limited cultural diffusion that developed around 1450.

  • toledosequel [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Choked: the USSR was an experiment in socialism

    Broke: the USSR was an experiment in state Capitalism

    Woke: the USSR was an experiment in Red-Brown Stalinism

    BESPOKE: the USSR was an experiment in settler-colonial libertarian Capitalism with problematic characteristics

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Why are online anarchists like this? RL Anarchists are cool and based and critique in good faith.

    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I'm pretty convinced at this point that a lot of them are bots. Most IRL anarchists I know are cool. I also think that the BLM protests of the past year turned a lot of libs towards anarchism, so they haven't read any theory and just like the aesthetic.

  • save_vs_death [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    ok then, let's compare them then, take that next step dawg, let's hear what you've got

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Not to be too much of a tankie. But most tradional society weren't as based as the ussr so it was a step up. 'cause like what, they imperialized the Romanovs that was cool