I've seen lots of postmodern art that I just do not comprehend or even particularly aesthetically enjoyed with the artist's commentary to explain their thought process. (Specifically thinking about the postmodern art exhibition of hyperrealistic but distorted or mutilated dicks of varying sizes I saw at NY's MOMA. There were more genital giblets there than you'd see in a public pool locker room.) Yet I can appreciate the passion and free-flowing process of creation, or the lack thereof - depending on the artist's intent - that each piece has put into them.
Reactionaries fetishization of "traditional" art is an obsession over a utopianist ideal vision of the past those artworks portrayed. They look and understand that the modern world is filled with contradictions, whether they comprehend the conditions that create them or most likely not, that fill them with revulsion to look away for a world that appears flawless and shining. They don't like, appreciate, or understand art from any period, they only like the belief they ascribe to it.
The really weird stuff like Duchamps urinal was a reaction to the then contemporary art world and world at large that we live in the looooong shadow of (also the post-modernist stuff chuds rail about was all CIA funded lol, they would've loved Soviet era worker realism). People wanting more realism now is defintely in reaction to the ever growing disconnection between art and life or anything even aesthetically pleasing, so to some extent its pretty normal.
I, for one, would love a series of paintings of those dope Chinese doctors that were riding horses through the snow to deliver medical help in Xinjiang. Like this one or this one. Or just a series of portraits of just... regular people doing their regular people things like having coffee or working or playing video games. I'm kind of sick of everything being disintegrated into dick giblets to stand for "the patriarchy" or whatever, something more subtle as well as more reflective of modern life would be nice too.
I don't think the dick giblets were a feminist statement if I recall, but some kind of social commentary on the human condition and the warped perception of our own bodies vs. idealized visions imposed on us by consumer culture.
There's pretty compelling evidence that Duchamp claimed the credit for La Fontaine from one of his contemporaries (Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven) fwiw, a lot of the Art World(tm) gets very mad when you bring it up. I have really mixed feelings about Dada as a whole, I think its central thesis about "the world doesn't make sense, why should art make sense" really resonates in the present day — zoomer humor has big Dadaist vibes.
Part of the problem is that what constitutes Art(tm) is by-and-large decided by the elite
lots of postmodern art that I just do not comprehend or even particularly aesthetically enjoyed
tbf some (a lot of) art really does suck ass.
not because its postmodern or traditional or whatever other genre, but because its just incredibly poorly done or otherwise objectionable due to the message behind it.
they only like the belief they ascribe to it
probably the main reason, aside from past-fetishization, that they dislike art that isnt 'realistic,' tbh
its a lot harder to ascribe a belief to something when you have to create an interpretation of an amorphous blob or whatever that fits that view, where "i only like pictures of pretty white people" is very easy
I've seen lots of postmodern art that I just do not comprehend or even particularly aesthetically enjoyed with the artist's commentary to explain their thought process. (Specifically thinking about the postmodern art exhibition of hyperrealistic but distorted or mutilated dicks of varying sizes I saw at NY's MOMA. There were more genital giblets there than you'd see in a public pool locker room.) Yet I can appreciate the passion and free-flowing process of creation, or the lack thereof - depending on the artist's intent - that each piece has put into them.
Reactionaries fetishization of "traditional" art is an obsession over a utopianist ideal vision of the past those artworks portrayed. They look and understand that the modern world is filled with contradictions, whether they comprehend the conditions that create them or most likely not, that fill them with revulsion to look away for a world that appears flawless and shining. They don't like, appreciate, or understand art from any period, they only like the belief they ascribe to it.
The really weird stuff like Duchamps urinal was a reaction to the then contemporary art world and world at large that we live in the looooong shadow of (also the post-modernist stuff chuds rail about was all CIA funded lol, they would've loved Soviet era worker realism). People wanting more realism now is defintely in reaction to the ever growing disconnection between art and life or anything even aesthetically pleasing, so to some extent its pretty normal.
I, for one, would love a series of paintings of those dope Chinese doctors that were riding horses through the snow to deliver medical help in Xinjiang. Like this one or this one. Or just a series of portraits of just... regular people doing their regular people things like having coffee or working or playing video games. I'm kind of sick of everything being disintegrated into dick giblets to stand for "the patriarchy" or whatever, something more subtle as well as more reflective of modern life would be nice too.
I don't think the dick giblets were a feminist statement if I recall, but some kind of social commentary on the human condition and the warped perception of our own bodies vs. idealized visions imposed on us by consumer culture.
Or dude just wanted to make dick sculptures lmaoo
There's pretty compelling evidence that Duchamp claimed the credit for La Fontaine from one of his contemporaries (Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven) fwiw, a lot of the Art World(tm) gets very mad when you bring it up. I have really mixed feelings about Dada as a whole, I think its central thesis about "the world doesn't make sense, why should art make sense" really resonates in the present day — zoomer humor has big Dadaist vibes.
Part of the problem is that what constitutes Art(tm) is by-and-large decided by the elite
tbf some (a lot of) art really does suck ass.
not because its postmodern or traditional or whatever other genre, but because its just incredibly poorly done or otherwise objectionable due to the message behind it.
probably the main reason, aside from past-fetishization, that they dislike art that isnt 'realistic,' tbh
its a lot harder to ascribe a belief to something when you have to create an interpretation of an amorphous blob or whatever that fits that view, where "i only like pictures of pretty white people" is very easy