if we ever get the technology to upload a brain into a computer i will be one of the first people to do it
Yeah but unless quantum interactions are fundamental to consciousness, then you don't really need a quantum computer to simulate it.
And if quantum interactions are fundamental to consciousness then you cannot copy your consciousness (no cloning theorem), although I guess you could, "in theory", teleport it
Well yeah because they transitioned and now use she/her pronouns
This is close to impossible. You do not have a mind, made up of little bits of data a computer can read. Minds do not exist in reality. They are an abstraction. You have a brain, a wet pile of electrical meat. "Uploading your brain" is conceptual equivalent of taking the original paper score to Beethoven's ninth symphony, stuffing it inside your iPhone and then expecting music to play. It needs to be transformed and transcribed, and at that point it loses its unique identity that makes you you.
Every time you've heard Beethoven’s ninth symphony it's been because someone stuffed the score in a computer and it played.
Even if you heard it in a real life orchestra or something. The fact that the score is not the same parchment paper (deaf) Beethoven wrote it in changes nothing about the piece.
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. An upload of your brain wouldn't be you, it'd be a clone, and almost definitely a subtly changed one.
My personality and my memories and so on change subtly every day I wake up. Over the years the changes accumulate and I'm a different person.
Of course, even if the brain scan and simulation technology was perfect so that there's no distinguishable difference in my thoughts immediately before being scanned and once being simulated, over time the material conditions, the fact that I'm a computer and I now require electricity and microprocessors instead of food and shelter, would over time shape my thoughts and my ideology and turn me into a different person.
It'd still be me.
When the technology isn't perfect there's a discrete change, but again saying that a discrete difference changes the person is saying that one dies when they have a stroke.
To be clear I am a proponent of "'You"' is a meaningless concept" but that's not really what I'm talking about right now.
You didn't mind the aeons of oblivion before you were born; why wouldn't the aeons of oblivion after you're dead be exactly the same? This post brought to you by Epicurus gang.
You won't comprehend oblivion after you cease existing, either. You absolute onion.
Why limit yourself to the downside potential only? I'd like to believe that humans aren't the only intelligent life forms today, let alone in the probable infinite history of the universe, I mean do you really think semi-intelligent monkeys that eat/shit/sleep/sex with sewage pipes are the best this universe is capable of?
It may just be the case that being born a western chud are is as unlikely as being hit by a lightning 20 times in a row.
Also there is relativity, quantum mechanics and things like many worlds theory to worry about before reincarnation even begins to make sense.
And think, you could get reborn as a crow or an octopus, and it would be a definite trade up.
Because I like being alive, I can definitively say that non-oblivion is much more my speed than oblivion.
Sure, sure. But either there will come a time where you don't like being alive so much, or else you'll die too fast to worry about it. Either way, no sweat. Enjoy life while you can, but death isn't something to worry about.
I can imagine about a thousand scenarios where neither of those things are true.
Oh yeah I had that one when I was 4, in the middle of the supermarket i just started screaming I don't want to die over and over
Meanwhile, I fear that I will be cursed with consciousness forever. Absolute void would be amazing.
Also !politics
oh man, when i was on mushrooms I had a bit of a bad trip. i died and entered what i thought was a time loop and i would exist forever. Its horrifying.
SOMEONE PLEASE TURN THE MACHINE OFF
Oh me too. The time loop was just one of the realities I entered. Half of them had scary components either then or when you reflect on it.
That specific instance was in a composite of bedrooms I’ve had and in the loop I swapped between my perspective and my girlfriends (who was kind of a compost of current and previous girlfriend). My vision was also in black and white and somewhere between A Scanner Darkly and the music video for Take On Me by A-Ha; it hand a kind of sketched feel.
could be eternal consciousness in a void. buuut.. i'd like to think eventually you'd learn to master it since it would basically be a personal pocket universe.
what if i told you consciousness is just a fractal inside the human machine (brain) and its not conscious, its the act of perceiving time which creates the illusion you exist, and consciousness itself contains all things which is really the experience of nothing.
without time, the fractal is already decided. already mapped out. all is 1 and 1 is all
Here is what will really blow their mind. The living are burdened by the knowledge of their mortality, the non-existent have the luxury of not fearing death, and that is exactly what you will become when you die
This kid needs to consider the fact that oṃ tryámbakaṃ yajāmahe sughandhíṃ puṣṭivardhánam urvārukam iva bandhánān mṛtyor mukṣīya māmṛtāt. Sheesh.
Also, τὸ φρικωδέστατον οὖν τῶν κακῶν ὁ θάνατος οὐθὲν πρὸς ἡμᾶς͵ ἐπειδήπερ ὅταν μὲν ἡμεῖς ὦμεν͵ ὁ θάνατος οὐ πάρεστιν͵ ὅταν δὲ ὁ θάνατος παρῇ͵ τόθ΄ ἡμεῖς οὐκ ἐσμέν.
I'm more inclined to the former, but I can see how the letter might be more relaxing.
Well, this seems easy. Just ask the kid if he was afraid before he was born
Matt's back in existential form with yesterday's cushvlog, as it happens. Actually pretty soothing stuff in my opinion. https://www.twitch.tv/chapotraphouse/v/1012378172?sr=a&
I agree. This is also a very funny post to say that in. Appropriate, but funny.
