I think you're underestimating the paradigm shift that worldwide veganism would bring. Land is only scarce because carnism uses and destroys so much of it, veganism only needs about a tenth of that and would also slow climate change down by a lot.
Veganism aside, we're still talking about living in a capitalist political/economic system right?
So, I've heard the "rain forests are being mowed down because of cows" arguments before. This seems to forget that the same people, businesses, governments that are allowing the rain forests to be turned into cow pastures will just mow down the rain forests to plant things. Doesn't matter what, so long as profits, tax revenue, kickbacks can be paid out I don't see veganism changing that.
(Also, the point of my first comment was less about shitting veganism, and more about giving an actual argument as to why farmers won't be that bad off if there is a large enough move to veganism that farmers not able/willing to move to crops or nature maintenance work aren't going to be destitute.)
I think you're underestimating the paradigm shift that worldwide veganism would bring. Land is only scarce because carnism uses and destroys so much of it, veganism only needs about a tenth of that and would also slow climate change down by a lot.
Veganism aside, we're still talking about living in a capitalist political/economic system right?
So, I've heard the "rain forests are being mowed down because of cows" arguments before. This seems to forget that the same people, businesses, governments that are allowing the rain forests to be turned into cow pastures will just mow down the rain forests to plant things. Doesn't matter what, so long as profits, tax revenue, kickbacks can be paid out I don't see veganism changing that.
(Also, the point of my first comment was less about shitting veganism, and more about giving an actual argument as to why farmers won't be that bad off if there is a large enough move to veganism that farmers not able/willing to move to crops or nature maintenance work aren't going to be destitute.)
I see your point, and you are right, veganism is not sufficient, but it is necessary
While I can't follow you all, all the way, I'll do what I can to help out those who don't make me wince.
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