I've seen this floating around, I don't doubt it, but I'd like to see a comprehensive source that explains this, or at least multiple sources.
Obviously there's not a lot of evidence that it was the feds, but 6 big Ferguson organizers died or "committed suicide" pretty quickly after their protests started to die down. This includes two people shot and burned in their cars, one shot infront of the Ohio Statehouse, one who was hanged in a park, and one who had a heart attack on a bus. The police investigated a few of these and never came up with anything.
Just woke up I'll find sources later but basically almost all of the original organizers were killed by police, or in other suspicious circumstances like being found dead in burned cars with gunshot wounds.
Straight up murder isn't really the Feds MO. The FBI will habitually infiltrate and infiltrate and infiltrate until they know everything and control leadership.
Local police on the other hand... It only takes a couple of them to figure out there is no consequences if they murder this person everyone in the department hates.
Edit: to everyone giving knee jerk responses about Fred Hampton: yes the FBI are responsible for the murder of Fred Hampton. However, it was almost universally understood that it was the CPD's idea to kill him. My point is the FBI won't choose assassination as a tactic but the police will.
and the Chicago police
The Chicago Police Department, world famous for murdering leftists, killed Fred Hampton and the FBI provided the Intel. This example does not disprove my thesis. History would imply that if it wasn't for the CPD the FBI would've just kept spying on him and maybe try to blackmail him or have informants muscle him out of leadership.
Don't confuse this with defending the FBI. Its just extremely important for us leftists to know the character and habits of those who threaten us.
I'm not trying to make any sort of ethical or moral statements about the FBI. They clearly don't give a shit if leftists of any stripe get killed.
I'm trying to enhance our understanding of their behaviour so we can better predict it and protect ourselves from it. If a local organizer gets murdered, your first suspects should be the cops.
The plausible deniability is exactly the point. They don’t care if people find out about the murders. They just care that their levers of power are maintained and the plausible deniability is part of the insurance against that happening
the massively armed raid was fully supported by the FBI
We actually don't know if this is true. If you listen to the TrueAnon episode on the matter, one of the researchers explains that it looks like the raid may have been done by the Chicago police without the FBI's knowledge. Not because the FBI is above that kind of thing, but because their style of subversion is more sophisticated than the meathead cops', and there is evidence that the FBI wanted to continue its surveillance of Hampton so that they could break his spirit like they did to Huey Newton, instead of turning him into a martyr.
RevLeft Radio on "Revisiting the Assassination of Fred Hampton" talked to two authors that had just received FOIA docs on his assassination. As soon as Fred Hampton is assassinated, the FBI agent in charged got a bonus.
That's also in the TrueAnon episode. We're not saying the FBI is against other orgs assassinating leftists just that they don't have a history of doing that themselves.
IIRC there was also some memos with them bemoaning all the informants they lost because of that raid.
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But really there's little evidence that it was the FBI who called the hit. All we know is they were definitely spying on him and tried to blackmail him, which is my point about the FBI.
iMO its just as, if not more so, likely that the CIA, local police, or just a random racist did it.
I don't think there is a functional difference between the feds committing the murder or one of their assets.
Not who your replying to but I don't think the FBI has a history of even doing that. That's seems like a CIA thing.
We have an abundance of examples of how the FBI operates to draw from and assassination just isn't in it. Like maybe they're just really good at covering it up but we should base our understandings on the material history we can observe. The FBI likes informants like Steve balmer likes developers. Their main tactics are to infiltrate leadership positions of revolutionary organizations and encourage lone radicals to do terrorism and then entrap them. Sprinkle some blackmail in there too.
This is not exactly hard evidence that the FBI tried to murder someone. They could've known someone else was going to bomb her and not cared. That's not really new for them. Or legitimately thought she was going to bomb someone herself. Feds can be up their own ass like that.
That said, if there was a trend of this happening with environmentalists that be something.
I think multiple people were found dead from gunshots in the backseat of their cars which had been torched
No, we should be saying the police are murdering BLM organizers because:
a) its true
b) it brings focus on the issues those protesters were fighting.
c) its true
d) you won't be a conspiratorialist.
e) its true.
CornOnTheBobs point is we should say it was the feds without evidence. If you have evidence that they were involved in the killing of BLM organizers then I welcome it but historical evidence suggests local police.
I agree, people are going to cling to conspiracy theories anyway, the left should put these theories out there into Facebook groups or wherever.
The reactionaries spend a lot of time and money spreading their own theories, and there are enough of them that some stick in people's brains. I think of the hippy/new-agey people being pulled into qanon and it makes me sick.
"best" case scenario being a black activist in america has very high death rates
