It's easy to say that it feels like a psyop, but the levels of class reductionism - that is to say - the knee-jerk ridicule of intersectional shit or critical race theory stuff feels highly suspect. Like, you can't say white people are nerds (which they are) in a lot of anti-woke left spaces without harsh rebukes, and it seems really suspect to me. Is there a real fash pipeline in our midst? Are class reductionist white people that sensitive and defensive and... well... white to the point that they can't let go of their privilege even in the context of them being left?

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    4 years ago

    I mean, feels to me like you hit the nail on the head as to why they come off as crypto-fascists or crypto-white supremacists, they say a lot of the same shit and make similar jokes about social stuff and especially what I've noticed is disabled people get a lot of mockery.

    As to why they become this way I'm not sure, my instinctual take here is that probably people kneejerk react to both the left having little success in the west and that a lot of the left in the west has stuff that is portrayed as "cringy" or otherwise embarrassing on the generally more right leaning internet. So they think "Oh this isnt working because we are cringe, we need to be cool and we do that by making fun of the cringe" or something to that effect. Basing this off shit like that time the red scare people got interviewed in a right leaning newspaper and one of them said some shit like "You can call me trans as a joke I wont be triggered".

    • Gothouse [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      disabled people get a lot of mockery.

      Many here unironically use the r-word.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        4 years ago

        The thing that hit for me was when during a Chapo episode, Felix made a joke about "spoons" which is a concept used in a lot of neurodivergent circles to basically visualize the amount of willpower and energy a person has to divide up each day, the joke was literally just that the thing in itself was funny somehow and it was just really fucking mean spirited.

        Unfollowed him on Twitter cause he does a lot of that shit and thats like the mild end of what I talked about, when it doesnt go full social reactionary but theres still the instict to mock "cringe" stuff.

        • Gothouse [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          theres still the instict to mock “cringe” stuff.

          You'll find humans do that when they consider whomever they are mocking as "The Other". All the bromides about tolerance and understanding get thrown out the window - those only apply to the ingroup. The outgroup has no such protections and may be treated like Mississippi police departments did to runaway slaves.