It's easy to say that it feels like a psyop, but the levels of class reductionism - that is to say - the knee-jerk ridicule of intersectional shit or critical race theory stuff feels highly suspect. Like, you can't say white people are nerds (which they are) in a lot of anti-woke left spaces without harsh rebukes, and it seems really suspect to me. Is there a real fash pipeline in our midst? Are class reductionist white people that sensitive and defensive and... well... white to the point that they can't let go of their privilege even in the context of them being left?

  • RealAssHistoryHours [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    tbh they are white supremacists mostly. But they think having a rudimentary class analysis somehow negates their defense of whiteness. Also, "the dirtbag left" is an ideology of working class tailism that declares reactionary elements of the working class are defensible simply because they stem from the working class. The dirtbag left is a complete malefactor to building a genuine liberatory and inclusive working class politics.

    • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I’d say that “dirtbag” isn’t an ideology so much as an aesthetic. That is, where the profane, ugly, and ridiculous is used as a rhetorical tool against reactionary and liberal targets.

      • Gothouse [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        " where the profane, ugly, and ridiculous is used as a rhetorical tool against reactionary and liberal targets."

        Well, no wonder it's attracting so many crypto-fascists. That's basically what they do. You just described every meme that ever appeared on /r/The_Donald. They just had their own, twisted idea of "reactionaries" - that's what people like McCain and Romney seem like to them.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      declares reactionary elements of the working class are defensible simply because they stem from the working class.

      Yep. Amber for example has never found a reactionary who she hasn't defended. Always always tries to make excuses for them and is a big reason I stopped listening to that podcast.