• toledosequel [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    One thing being a radical centrist does is make you feel "above" politics. You never have to come up with a conclusion, the answer is always to throw your arms up and say "it's complicated" before criticizing the "discourse" around the issue.

    You don't even have to research a topic, the fact that all factions in a conflict are equally bad and has equal amounts of power is a priori. You will always come to the same conclusion of "isn't the discourse around this so tiring? All sides are bad!"

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They take the position that all conflict is bad regardless of the reason, and go from there.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Centrism is such a lazy position to have. Everyone I know who swears by it will conveniently use it to shut out leftist opinions while reluctantly including right-wing opinions.

  • iwishthiswasicq [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    People support Palestinian's, not Hamas. (unless you are a le epic edge lord)

    Hamas is not a “good” organization. They are a fundamentalist, anti communist organization that would repress women’s and LGBT rights if they had control. While you can sympathize with the reason for their existence, actively praising them is objectively bad. Endorsing a reactionary org that seeks to impose it's fundamentalist views on everyone in the region they control is not something leftists advocate for

    Militant action against Israeli - good

    fundamentalist, reactionary anti-communist ideas the group hold - bad

    • CommieElon [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I’ve seen some “Hamas good” takes on here which made me cringe.

      • iwishthiswasicq [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        sadly some ppl get into leftism to simply be against the status quo or to be edgy. The same ppl prolly praise how effectively China is rooting out extremism and fundamental beliefs in Xinjiang

        (The point is the contradiction, not saying China bad)

        • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Or people get into leftism for good reasons, but occasionally slip into lazy oversimplifications.

          • iwishthiswasicq [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            I’m not saying many do, I’m just saying while some ppl get into it for good reasons, some, like Obama, are just trying to get with that long legged socialist :blob-no-thoughts:

          • Lucas [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I think that's the case. IDF being considered analogous to Hamas is an easy mistake to make if most of what you've heard is that they're fighting one another. It's shaking off those last bits of both-sidesing.

    • DirtbagVegan [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It is in the interest of the Israeli state to portray all Palestinian resistance from Hamas. It’s part of what makes this meme and type of thinking, which is pervasive in Democratic circles. You let them conflate Palestinian militancy with Hamas and you know these things about Hamas being a fundamentalist essentially right wing org, and you certainly wouldn’t want to support that, so you say nothing, which is effectively supporting the status quo.

      • iwishthiswasicq [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        are you referring directly to me or just lib twitter?

        like obviously I support militant Palestinian resistance

        • DirtbagVegan [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          The kind of viewpoint represented in the meme, not you saying the obvious that Hamas is bad!

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I felt i was hearing Hamas was funded by the West as it’s specifically Anti-Communist.

    Dunno how true it is, the history is hard to follow as is.

    • Kaputnik [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah I had a prof go over this, Israel and other western nations funded Hamas to divert Palestinian support away from the PLO and other explicitly socialist Palestinian orgs.

        • winterchillie [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Here, I have two:

          http://web.archive.org/web/20210512190316if_/https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/ http://web.archive.org/web/20150326013213/https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123275572295011847

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    I don't know what it is but there's something about the way Redditors use "c*nt" that I find really lame.

  • RowPin [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Someone introduced me to the phrase "internet Holden Caulfield" recently and I genuinely cannot stop seeing it everywhere.

  • DirtbagVegan [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Look it’s pretty fucked up what’s happening in the Warsaw Ghetto on both sides. There’s violence on both sides. It wouldn’t be right to pick one group of cunts to support.

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's very annoying the way they use "divide" here, like it's some bullshit artificial gamer gate thing.

  • Dyno [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'll take 'what is false dichotomy' for $500