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  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It's really weird how angry the article is about Shrek...

    Also:

    The grownups in the room can snicker knowingly at Farquaad’s name and the repeated references to his penis size while the kids are left with fart jokes and the wanton diminishment of timeless characters and stories

    These "timeless characters and stories" fucking suck. Well, they don't suck necessarily but they're not "timeless" because they are so great, but just because it's what people know. There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing things with them.

    Also the animation was genuinely great for its time.

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Shrek works because the fairytales were trite garbage after existing for hundreds of years.

      Shrek is basically an inversion of the idea that good people have to be the conventional idea of a hero.

      I think fairytales are good for kids and their development but at some point they've got to watch Shrek.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Most of the fairy tales in Shrek had already been Disneyfied. They were mocking the Disney versions of source material that's actually very dark. Which is kinda done in Shrek, but in a humorous way.

        • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Since when though? And Shrek was genuinely ostracised from society. The closest that comes to that is Wreck-It Ralph which was years after Shrek.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Alladin, Hercules, Pinocchio, The Sword in the Stone...it's a pretty normal heroes journey trope.

            • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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              3 years ago

              I don't think they quite work the same way.

              All the heroes in those stories win by escaping the situation they were in. Shrek actually embraces his ogreness rather than rejecting it.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                He learns to accept help from other people and how to make friends and be less ogre-esque. He was still changed by the experience. If it were subversive the movie would end right before the Hallelujah montage except Shrek is totally content.