You see that type of thing in hobbies everywhere. In racing games like Gran Turismo some dude will drop thousands of US dollars into some fancy wheel and pedal setup, only to be beaten by a teenager using a PS4 controller, because the kid actually understands what a basic racing line is.
Used to be that guy. I'd run my 3500 dollar anderson drop top through my pedal board full of SOLID STATE ONLY NO DIGITAL LINE6 CRAP pedals and then into my 3000 dollar tube half stack. (except my technique was fine I was just a tone snob.)
Nowadays I literally just plug my guitar directly into my audio interface with a wireless receiver and use PRS Archon digital guitar amp in ableton live haha
nice you cant beat the 6505 with the screamer haha.
Yea i do but I have a les paul that's my work horse at the studio. I actually need to set it up bc it has flat wounds and I want to switch back to normal strings.
Yeah I used to be super into like btbam and other prog metal (boomer math rock basically haha) so there was a lot of that back then too.
Lmaoo this is amazing to hear lol. I just know that a lot of line 6 stuff has become kind of a meme in the metal community. Maybe they're super elitist snobs or something? I guess people are more concerned about the stylistic aspects of their sound now, rather than having everything crystal clear and all? Definitely appreciate this "lo Fi" trend, if it is a thing.
also yea people aren't generally as concerned about gear as much anymore bc computers can do so much. I can tell you a lot of guitar stuff in pop music these days is 100% digital at least in pop and hip hop music. I haven't used an amp in the studio in years and the whole time I was just at the studio in LA the other producer there was just DIing all their stuff and he literally just released a song with dave grohl apparently lol.
Yeah computers have improved so much lately. I still remember when bands would search for weird analogue stuff to make the desired sound, like playing a guitar in part though the speakers of a tape recorder lol.
lol i mean i guess experimentation can be cool. it's just like anything else, it's the shutting yourself off to "only these ways of getting sound are valid" where it becomes :cringe: or thinking that that way is arbitrarily better bc you did some arcane or other shit to get there. I think as long as the music sounds good to people that's all that matters.
lol i just released a song with a popular post hardcore singer and all the guitars are DI'd and using plugins for amps and the drums are completely midi I just sound replaced the kick, snare, and toms with slate drums to make them sound a bit more real. My teenage/early 20s self would be talking so much shit about it haha but it's out and got picked up on New Alt so :shrug-outta-hecks:
I produce for a band that the guitar player is that guy. he listens to only polyphia all day and constantly tries shoehorn in noodly shit that doesn't serve the song at all. Half the record has guitars that I went back and replaced myself with the singer bc he couldn't play the simple funky picking stuff the song needed.
Some metalheads I swear man. I'm from the punk side of things so it's the complete opposite lol. You have a guitar? It works? Even just barely? Okay good, that's all you need
that's how hip hop and pop is. The secret is guitars sound like guitars lol. yes there is minutia that guitar players can obsess over but the average person isn't going to notice or care so it's inherently navel gazey shit.
When I started producing I started thinking more big picture, how all the elements work together in the song and in the mix (since i'm a recording engineer by trade) and that little minutia in the guitar just matters way a lot less when you're thinking about more than just the guitar.
funny, my old band tried to make me into THAT GUY. The other guitar player was annoyingly swapping pedals in and out of his board, my bassist was the same but to a lesser extent, and they bullied me into trying all sort of different pedals, like taking my modded DS-1 off, then my TS-9DX, trying a Rat clone (didnt like it). before trying a Walrus Voyager, which I REALLY loved the sound of. I tried a Brutalist, but didnt like my sound, stacked OD pedals, but that got cumbersome.
i shrank my pedalboard down to a tuner -> Walrus Audio Voyager -> Walrus ARP-87 -> EHX Oceans 11. and I love my tone.
thankfully they could never convince me to part with my amp, A Sovtek Mig-50H, i only got more of them, though my friends Mig-50 reissue was looking 👀, so i bought that the moment he needed the money.
it’s funny cause we were just too young and stupid, with me just being old enough to not give a shit anymore. I’ve seen too many band show off gear and be uninteresting, and bands work with what they have and blow the doors off a venue,
the lead guitar player in City of Caterpillar uses a DS-1 and a Blues Driver ffs. really shut them up for a while seeing that
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You see that type of thing in hobbies everywhere. In racing games like Gran Turismo some dude will drop thousands of US dollars into some fancy wheel and pedal setup, only to be beaten by a teenager using a PS4 controller, because the kid actually understands what a basic racing line is.
Fighting/arcade sticks are this too.
Used to be that guy. I'd run my 3500 dollar anderson drop top through my pedal board full of SOLID STATE ONLY NO DIGITAL LINE6 CRAP pedals and then into my 3000 dollar tube half stack. (except my technique was fine I was just a tone snob.)
Nowadays I literally just plug my guitar directly into my audio interface with a wireless receiver and use PRS Archon digital guitar amp in ableton live haha
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nice you cant beat the 6505 with the screamer haha.
Yea i do but I have a les paul that's my work horse at the studio. I actually need to set it up bc it has flat wounds and I want to switch back to normal strings.
Yeah I used to be super into like btbam and other prog metal (boomer math rock basically haha) so there was a lot of that back then too.
i like my DL4 and my echo park
line 6 makes good stuff but I was a "tUbEz ThO" guy back then. My whole situation is digital now lol
both of those are great pedals. the other guitar player in my old band used to use one
Lol
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Lmaoo this is amazing to hear lol. I just know that a lot of line 6 stuff has become kind of a meme in the metal community. Maybe they're super elitist snobs or something? I guess people are more concerned about the stylistic aspects of their sound now, rather than having everything crystal clear and all? Definitely appreciate this "lo Fi" trend, if it is a thing.
yes. that is exactly it lmao
Okay thanks for the clarification lol
also yea people aren't generally as concerned about gear as much anymore bc computers can do so much. I can tell you a lot of guitar stuff in pop music these days is 100% digital at least in pop and hip hop music. I haven't used an amp in the studio in years and the whole time I was just at the studio in LA the other producer there was just DIing all their stuff and he literally just released a song with dave grohl apparently lol.
Yeah computers have improved so much lately. I still remember when bands would search for weird analogue stuff to make the desired sound, like playing a guitar in part though the speakers of a tape recorder lol.
lol i mean i guess experimentation can be cool. it's just like anything else, it's the shutting yourself off to "only these ways of getting sound are valid" where it becomes :cringe: or thinking that that way is arbitrarily better bc you did some arcane or other shit to get there. I think as long as the music sounds good to people that's all that matters.
This so much. That's really all that matters in the end. However someone gets there is all up to them
lol i just released a song with a popular post hardcore singer and all the guitars are DI'd and using plugins for amps and the drums are completely midi I just sound replaced the kick, snare, and toms with slate drums to make them sound a bit more real. My teenage/early 20s self would be talking so much shit about it haha but it's out and got picked up on New Alt so :shrug-outta-hecks:
I was one of those i only "play with tubes!" guys. Also i was like it's not good if there's no sweep picking and shit lol dumb ass metal head shit
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I produce for a band that the guitar player is that guy. he listens to only polyphia all day and constantly tries shoehorn in noodly shit that doesn't serve the song at all. Half the record has guitars that I went back and replaced myself with the singer bc he couldn't play the simple funky picking stuff the song needed.
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At least you didn't get to the phase where you destroy your line 6 pedals and amps with a hammer in your backyard (actual YouTube video I saw once)
thats some :zizek-ok: sniff shit. jesus christ lol
Some metalheads I swear man. I'm from the punk side of things so it's the complete opposite lol. You have a guitar? It works? Even just barely? Okay good, that's all you need
:gigachad:
that's how hip hop and pop is. The secret is guitars sound like guitars lol. yes there is minutia that guitar players can obsess over but the average person isn't going to notice or care so it's inherently navel gazey shit.
When I started producing I started thinking more big picture, how all the elements work together in the song and in the mix (since i'm a recording engineer by trade) and that little minutia in the guitar just matters way a lot less when you're thinking about more than just the guitar.
funny, my old band tried to make me into THAT GUY. The other guitar player was annoyingly swapping pedals in and out of his board, my bassist was the same but to a lesser extent, and they bullied me into trying all sort of different pedals, like taking my modded DS-1 off, then my TS-9DX, trying a Rat clone (didnt like it). before trying a Walrus Voyager, which I REALLY loved the sound of. I tried a Brutalist, but didnt like my sound, stacked OD pedals, but that got cumbersome.
i shrank my pedalboard down to a tuner -> Walrus Audio Voyager -> Walrus ARP-87 -> EHX Oceans 11. and I love my tone.
thankfully they could never convince me to part with my amp, A Sovtek Mig-50H, i only got more of them, though my friends Mig-50 reissue was looking 👀, so i bought that the moment he needed the money.
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it’s funny cause we were just too young and stupid, with me just being old enough to not give a shit anymore. I’ve seen too many band show off gear and be uninteresting, and bands work with what they have and blow the doors off a venue,
the lead guitar player in City of Caterpillar uses a DS-1 and a Blues Driver ffs. really shut them up for a while seeing that
:cringe:
overdrive pedals on bass can be dope. Also delay if the bassist knows how to use it, but these are very specific circumstances.
whatever happened to the days when bassists put the thickest possible gauge strings on a Squire bass and played solely in drop C smdh kids these days
they're still playing at the local coffee shop that set up a stage for hardcore/scene bands?
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well, guess which one mine was?
you play heavy music dont you? i'm assuming overdrive haha
overdrive drive does sound nice, i cant be sure to call my friend a “bassist who knows how to use” much of anything.
no
lol i had this in mind when i said they can be dope
loading 475 different plugins into my DAW without knowing how to even use the built in synths or even use my DAW at all
I see these guys all the time. I would probably become one too if I was rich.
tbf though, pedals can go a loooooong way in making you sound good lol