• Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    So at what point of inevitable disaster do we need to reach before FF7 becomes prophetic and eco terrorists attempting to blow up sites and assassinate "presidents" of companies becomes a thing?

    • machiavellianRecluse [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Before 9/11 per the FBI the greatest domestic threat to American national security were environmental activists :)

      Here is a fun read related to the same: https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-threat-of-eco-terrorism

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Interesting, seems small bananas though. There are a lot of pipelines and other things that are essentially critical infrastructure in the middle of nowhere easily hit. And then there's the CEOs themselves. It honestly surprises me that they haven't been targeted.

        Not in a "I think they should be" way but in a "why isn't this happening yet?" way. Is it because the issue is such a slow boil that it just isn't creating a reaction? FF7 is an imaginary piece of fiction of course but it imagines eco terrorism beginning far earlier it seems. Or maybe I'm wrong and the world of FF7 was nicer and more developed previously, only leading to the scenario it's currently in after massive global climate change already occurred. It's hard to imagine what the previous 200-300 years of FF7's world looked like to get to a scenario where there are sporadic global towns and settlements with only two major population centres being a dystopian mega city or a dystopian themepark monstrosity for the wealthy.

        • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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          4 years ago

          There was a pretty huge crackdown on radical environmental activists in the 90's, and that story is rarely ever told.

          Also, the recent climate energy that was swelling up until the pandemic showed some signs of turning in a more radical direction, but we'll never know now. I worry that reigniting that is going to be really difficult.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Won't be that difficult just wait for entire countries to be on fire again. The world literally burning around us ought to be something of a motivator.

        • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Not in a “I think they should be” way but in a “why isn’t this happening yet?” way.

          My thinking is that the people who take the problem seriously understand that it requires a systemic solution.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Why aren't they selling any to leftist?! >(

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        That reminds me of when Obama was being heckled by conservatives during his campaign. One of them said "The problem isn't conservatives like me! It's environmental activists!"

    • newmou [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Was that regarded as a good thing or a bad thing in that game? I never played it

        • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          well, you are playing an ex-special forces mercenary hired by the eco-terrorists to carry out the job.

          But since it's an RPG, the head of the terrorist group and your childhood friend who owns the bar they run their safehouse out of are also in your party.

          Eventually a robot cat also joins you who may be a government op.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        FF7 starts with you acting as a paid mercenary working with an eco terrorist group to blow up a power plant. You then go on to join and lead said eco terrorist group in opposing the actions of the global ruling power which is basically just one big mega company.