Or the people are just spontaneously dumb?
I mean, what’s the point of living in a gated community if you need to drive to places filled with poors to buy shit, or have a beer, or hook up with someone in your tax bracket, or etc?
These are places where to sleep but not to live, and they put them really fucking away from basic needs. C'mon at least just put a fucking grocery store with overpriced tomatoes
I thought part of the appeal of living stupidly far from any amenities was that you at least got a lot of space, but these houses are packed like sardines with postage stamp gardens.
city planning was outlawed as a minor provision of the Compromise of 1850 (often mis-cited as a precursor to civil war, but more accurately summarized as shit brained federalism)
american city planners in the 1930s attempted to petition the supreme court to overturn that provision, but were swiftly found dead and floating down various rivers.
today, a new suburban subdivision can be one of three uses: housing (exclusively, as pictured), industrial (e.g. a car manufacturing campus in the middle of fuckoff nowhere), or commercial (most often, a walmart supercenter).
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historically informed shitposting, my friend
check out the development of texas city, galveston, and las vegas - whoever has money (the mob, mostly) can do whatever they want and it's much cheaper to just carve out a square and tell a developer to make 120 identical homes than.. pay intelligent people who care about the development of community and life to make a real city.
Yes it is. It's called "single use zoning", and it's a blight on humanity.
"multi-family homes would really destroy the community in this lifeless all white and light blue trim housing that look exactly the same!!!"
usually a single developer owns all of the property and breaks it down into parcels to maximize profits. it doesn't want to sell a large chunk to a corporation because it maximizes profits by selling the quarter acres for tons of money. eventually someone with too much money will buy it regardless.
The land with the highest value is always the land furthest away from everything, unless you're inside an urban center.
Implying they don’t order delivery, has a staff living on property to take care of kids and aren’t paranoid of someone who has not lived there for 5 years and have not golfed with them
We have housing districts for people barely able to afford houses as well. All the people who have staff live in places with bigger yards than this
Hmm, but how normal people live re:all the amenities? Just car-car-car everywhere? And get bored out of their minds inside the pen?
I just posted another comment about this here
Suburbs suck ass and I wish america was laid out sensibly but I do think part of it is, it’s cheaper for the banks and developers to build shit way off and for people who can barely get into a home it’s live way out there in cookie cutter but reasonably sized home for a family or be in a cramped apartment or shitty ass single or two bedroom if you’re lucky house that’s incredibly old and poorly maintained. For people in my income bracket it’s one or the other, relatively decent house that isn’t breaking down, or near amenities.
I'd take a 400 sqft studio in town over a 2000 sqft house. If I have to drive more than ten minutes to work I want to die. Ideally work would be 10-15 minutes by bike.
Tbh I’m the opposite. I like having space for different stuff. It’s nice having a room for all of my work equipment.
Tho I used to be like that til I got older and got a house.
Really we shouldn’t be made to choose, at least not so drastically.
I agree. I like space. It's just a lower priority compared to being near stuff. Not that it matters right now because I have no choice in where to live. I found the one person who doesn't do credit checks that isn't a psycho and I really can't move until I fix my credit. Love our capitalist credit system, so much better than China's evil social credit system.
Understandable different strokes. I know people that leave way further out than I do and when I tell Them where I live they’re like “I don’t envy you that!” Every time lol
I don’t really go out too much anymore and I’m not horrifically far from stuff. Maybe 15 minutes from anything, 30-40 to the city center. When I was on high school the nearest real town was over an hour away bc we lived in rural tx so comparatively I may as well be living next door to everything lol
It is nice visiting places that are designed around people and not cars and I def see the appeal but I live just outside of Katy so :vivian-shrug:
this is basically all of nevada and arizona outside vegas and pheonix
It's also the same in Las Vegas and Phoenix, just sprawled out over hundreds of square miles with a "downtown" that is like 2x1 miles.
yeah tbh it's probably everywhere actually where development is still going on. I can think of quite a few places more inland in California that have become almost exactly that as well. Pretty much everything east of the bay area, Sacramento or all up and down past costal towns that isn't just farmland is becoming that. All just like 1 of 3 types of houses, all still looking mostly the same.
I just moved into one of these in thr inland empire and it is weird as hell
yeah it reminds me of like how horror-type movies portray the perfect WASPy neighborhood where everyone knows everyone everything is just gossiped about, but so long as you're a Good Christian™️ you don't have to worry about the kids locked up in your basement or some shit
I honestly did feel safer back in the hood. I knew I could have a beer in my back yard and not have to worry about someone reporting me to the home owners association for something unrelated.
holy shit theres a street literally called Dutch Oven Crescent :michael-laugh:
@eve_fartlow i found your new home
lol and all the other streets nearby "smugglers beach ct", "barnacle bay ave", "herring cove ave", "sea captain st" youre in the middle of the fucking desert youre not fooling anybody
Oh you think it’s funny to imply that I live in a gas chamber?
Palestinians are a barnacle. Palestinians are smugglers living on a beach. Israel is the sea captain, as the only democracy in the Middle East. Palestine is a red herring.
85 at midnight, 110 at noon
Just hellholes that shouldn't exist things :big-cool:
commercial uses are probably restricted yeah, where specifically is this?
But, what's the point of living in a gated community if you need to drive to the place filled with poors to buy shit, or have a beer, or etc
Honestly the appeal of these places that are way far out is probably a) mostly that it’s so normalized but b) just owning a home of any decent size can be increeeedibly expensive if it is located near amenities. So you live in a house that would cost 3x as much if it wasn’t on the edge of nothing bc otherwise you and your wife and 3 kids would be in a shoe box apt or a small 1 or 2 bedroom house that was built in 46 that is falling apart. That’s how it is here anyway
I’m saying they would cost more most likely if there were near amenities. Under the current way things are now anyway, not like an ideal situation. At least where I am homes on the outskirts run between 180-300k. that price for a home more centrally (not even really central just in more from the edges) located near shit is literally a box house falling down with no central ac or anything, or they just straight up don’t exist and everything is just under 1m at the lowest
You kind of get them early and “cheap” and usually the city builds out around them later
What I'm saying is this: Let's say you build 10 houses, and only one is close to amenities. That one house is now mad expensive because all the rich people want to buy it. But that is only the case because the other 9 aren't, if every house is close to amenities the issue doesn't really exist any more, at least not to that extent, because it's not like rich people will just buy every house for themselves just because it has amenities. This kind of planning makes 0 sense.
because it's not like rich people will just buy every house for themselves
Actually this reminded me of an anecdote, I had a rich friend in college that lived in a very large house on the north side of Chicago. Anyway a person in their neighborhood bought the neighboring multi million dollar house and then leveled it bc he wanted the extra yard space between him and the neighbor lol
Ironically last I talk to that person they did work at Facebook lol
You must know about this
[Zuck] has a knack for also buying surrounding properties to ensure his privacy. He has bought the four homes surrounding his main Palo Alto residence and a stake in a beach next to a plantation he purchased in Kauai.
Wasnt aware, tbh I don’t really follow social media news too much. Absolutely wild tho. The incident I was talking about would have happened in the mid to late 2000s.
That’s fair this is just what I’ve observed in my experience trying to find places to live for me and my family.
Definitely agree it makes no sense from perspective the providing for people’s needs. I can only assume it exists to squeeze a bit extra profit out of the homes for developers and/or maintain a sort of housing caste system in the city.
Why would you build amenities near the cheap houses instead of externalizing the costs via mandatory car ownership?
Americans are terrified of other people and want to stay away from "randoms" as much as possible. It's been this way as long as I've been alive.
Not zero planning at all. This is absolutely by design.
The communities exist to serve the profit motives of developers and their financial sponsors.
I imagine every psycho that lives in that hell thinks they've got the dream. Like they go into that restaurant and wave and smile at each other and talk about the poor people they saw at the Safeway in the city that they have to drive 60 minutes to get to.
