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  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    il y a 3 ans

    Well big map and big globe does have a racist, xenophobic conspiracy going on, so there is something to look into about that if you're not already familiar. A lot of it has to do with a form of white supremacy making white, western counties appear much larger than say continents like Africa and South America

    • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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      il y a 3 ans

      Also imaginary cartography seems to basically be a breeding ground for “the real map isn’t racist enough” versions lol

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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        il y a 3 ans

        Yes same with so much alternate history fiction. Vast majority is unreadable racist garbage

        • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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          il y a 3 ans

          Yeah, my brother (crypto fash guy I suspect) reads some alternate history book series that’s “what of the confederates won!” And I assume “and it was good actually!”

          • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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            il y a 3 ans

            Yup very few people end up telling the story, "but what if the Nazis won" and have it be actually a bad thing. Much more interesting to me but in general I grew out of it the more I learned about how they did actually win in many ways, just not militarily.

            If I was going to read alt history now a days it would be something a bit more interesting to my tastes like if the soviet union didn't collapse. That seems much more interesting world building and not so fuckin depressingly gross

            • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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              il y a 3 ans

              Alt history if Germany actually went communist and allied with the Soviet Union: “And then everyone lived happily ever after”

              • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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                il y a 3 ans

                If people actually had solidarity early enough with the trade unionists and the communists and anarchists that could be a cool story about toppling the fascist takeover. Like a civil war type shit

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              il y a 3 ans

              You would have to alter so much other stuff for the Nazis to have ever won the war. They could have maybe done better but winning was really never gonna happen.

          • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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            il y a 3 ans

            Idk if you've watched a Man in the High Castle but the first season was alright, it was a bit too lib for me to get really into but they at least made it pretty clear it was a bad thing.

            Unlike the reality where uhhh, we recruited a bunch of nazis and scientists into high levels of government with high level security clearance 🤔

            • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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              il y a 3 ans

              Final season of it had black communists being supplied by rebels in China as protagonists

              • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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                il y a 3 ans

                Yup thats that type of :LIB: shit I noticed within the first few episodes. It's a shame, could have been a decent premise all things considered

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              il y a 3 ans

              Haven't. I generally think it's a silly concept because you would have to change so much about the circumstances leading to the war that Germany would have won WW1. The nazis were never going to win.

              • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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                il y a 3 ans

                Absolutely yes that too. It was too fictional to be interesting to me because they didn't really address much of that, basically just pretended like so much shit didn't and did happen to world build. Which is fine you know for fictional stories, just couldn't suspend so much of my knowledge of it all to be all that interesting

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      il y a 3 ans

      Well big map and big globe does have a racist, xenophobic conspiracy going on, so there is something to look into about that if you’re not already familiar. A lot of it has to do with a form of white supremacy making white, western counties appear much larger than say continents like Africa and South America

      I thought that was just a side effect of the Mercator projection, which happened to be a useful navigational tool (that also, in a "full" map, would make Antarctica an infinite size)

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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        il y a 3 ans

        It is, but it makes little sense to keep using it for teaching geography in which people are not using for navigation. It should have evolved by now since the 1500s