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try not to re-litigate this, but if you think anonymously threatening to murder someone else's animal is cool and fine, you can fuck off

Further down in the thread lots of people are agreeing that they would shoot the cat :ohnoes:

  • greaseboy99 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    honestly I think it's an inane and ridiculous argument on the face of it. the context was that my neighbors cat got shot and they posted about it and some guy came in saying that actually its ok to shoot cats because they are an 'invasive species' and it's 'animal abuse' to let them outside. so coming in and agreeing with that take is just bad form in my opinion because it's a wildly bad take to use to justify killing someones pet. it's a weird thing to care so much about when we are literally destroying entire ecosystems with roads, cars, homes, etc etc and we're gonna sit here and argue about a cat being let out sometimes and maybe killing a bird a few times a year. for the record, my cat has never killed another animal and enjoys going outside when possible because he lives in a tiny apartment. i would feel like a very terrible person keeping him in the apartment forever, he very clearly has a desire to be outside.

    We generally think people shouldn’t be wandering around killing wild animals for fun, why shouldn’t we extend that to their pets as well?

    because people abide by a set of rules created by other people? because animals operate on instinct? i guess you're suggesting either a) never letting a cat outside or b) walking it on a leash. i feel like maybe you just never have owned a cat or know how they operate? i feel like I'm being shoved into an argument where i'm defending cats eating birds and really i'm not even trying to do that, i'm just saying they are instinctual creatures and it's ridiculous to expect an owner to follow a cat around a neighborhood like they would a child. all i'm defending is NOT SHOOTING CATS and you're siding with the guy who wants to shoot cats. so yeah, i'm a little irritated by it frankly and here i am typing way too much in response.

    anyway, i'll eat my ratio but i just think this is a ridiculous argument.

    • prismaTK
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      1 year ago

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      • greaseboy99 [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        What? I’m specifically saying that people shouldn’t be shooting cats and that I’m not agreeing with that argument.

        you posted in support of an argument that is literally being used to justify shooting cats. in my neighborhood 4 cats were shot in this one thread alone, one by a shotgun. so why are you even bringing this up in this context if you're not for shooting cats? i don't understand.

        Obviously shooting people’s pets is bad, I think we’re all in agreement here on that.

        no, we're not. i had another user who also echoed your same argument DM me and explicitly say they are in support of shooting cats. here, i'll copy/paste the DM.

        My position [...] is that just because cats have an instinct to torture other animals to death and get sad if they aren’t allowed to doesn’t give them any right to torture other animals to death, especially when them doing so is destroying ecosystems, and as a single cat, if left to its own devices, will torture an average of 390 mammals, 225 reptiles and 130 birds to death every year, it’s ridiculous to balk at killing them to stop that.

        this is the company you're in, and the take you're defending for who knows what reason. if you want to have nuanced conversation about it, then fine, but in a thread where people's cats are being shot and your argument is being used as justification it comes off as in really poor taste at best and disingenuous at worst.

        it's incredible to claim cats kill 700+ animals a year in a suburban environment (which is what nextdoor is) and then support the killing of people's pets for the sake of wildlife that is already subject to laws of nature and cycle of life. we've worked very hard as humans to extricate ourselves from the natural cycle of life and we afford a similar benefit to our pets but it's unrealistic to expect them to be fully domesticated out of their instincts and i stand by the fact that it's cruel to keep any animal caged indoors for any reason. is there a way to let out your cat without it being a destructive pest? absolutely. but if i let my cat outside and a neighbor with your beliefs sees it and grabs the shotgun, what a tragic misunderstanding that would be. i don't understand how this is even worth arguing over.

        clearly i am being ratioed and it's disturbing as fuck for me to see that i'm surrounded by neighbors who will shoot cats and also on my favorite forum people are in support of it. and even those who say they're not, like you, still implicitly give ammo to those who want to shoot cats for whatever reason. i just cannot believe this whole conversation.