Using a simple text prompt I can immediately generate any kind of image I want. It’s not that much different than a wizard casting a spell.
Yeah, especially if Q* and other AIs can be based in mathematics so it can invent new things that actually work.
Even a simple LLM is a window into the Jungian collective unconscious at time of training, but nobody seems to talk about the philosophical implications of what we have right now.
The Age of perfect robo wives.
For normal humans yes, for those that merge not so much.
There’s websites showing how you can build technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers. I don’t know how it works or if it does but there’s a lot on it. Lucifer Faust shamanic technomagick is a book that teaches you actual magick devices you can make I believe.
AI isn't magic and what we have out here isn't even AI. It's a freaking algorithm and they're falling for it like the Mechanical Turk
It's beyond pathetic.
Annoying too, given the genuine concerns about these algorithms being used to push artists even further out of their livelihoods.
They aren't causing an apocalypse. Capitalism is just doing what it does when a new thing comes out.
It's a freaking algorithm and they're falling for it like the Mechanical Turk
Most people conceptualize "Artificial Intelligence" as "Machine that Acts Like A Person". In that sense, chatbots and mechanical turks absolutely are artificial intelligence, at least as far as we're concerned. They fit the profile, or at least they're close enough.
Annoying too, given the genuine concerns about these algorithms being used to push artists even further out of their livelihoods.
My aunt loves don't jigsaw puzzles. She brings one to Thanksgiving every year. This year, the Santa-themed art on the puzzle was... bizarre. Images melted into one another. Objects were in odd places - the Christmas tree was in the fireplace, there was a weird chandelier just floating on the ceiling of a log cabin, the feet of one of the toy wooden deer were melted wax - all over the puzzle.
It was the picture of shoddy digitally generated imagery. But it sold just as easily as any of that other kitsch Christian disposables.
Yeah, especially if Q* and other AIs can be based in mathematics so it can invent new things that actually work
These people don't even know what machine learning means. It's all based in maths dumbass
Even a simple LLM is a window into the Jungian collective unconscious at time of training, but nobody seems to talk about the philosophical implications of what we have right now.
Jordan Peterson I should have predicted this
There’s websites showing how you can build technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers. I don’t know how it works or if it does but there’s a lot on it. Lucifer Faust shamanic technomagick is a book that teaches you actual magick devices you can make I believe.
California was a mistake
Fucking christ, these dolts think Jungian collective consciousness is like...a physically tangible thing. Like The Force from Star Wars.
When you play too much STALKER and think the noosphere is real.
I've been reading various AI forums about if Q* has even a splinter of real development behind it and none of these assholes could describe a linear regression let alone how an LLM works. Everything is already magic to them but they want the creepy incel robo waifu magic.
But if you can't prove that the LLM isn't conscious/sentient/sapient (like in Blade Runner!) then your own consciousness/sentience/sapience is thrown into doubt. Checkmate, meat computer.
Lots of people tried exactly that in that 500+ reply thread and the techbro clown just rolled the unicycle away from those posts and dodged any replying to them. 🤡
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
40k was supposed to be satirreeeeeeeee, I scream, as the tech cultists drag me to the sacrificial altar made out of Atari 2600’s
we are living in that episode of ReBoot where Enzo meets the system clock and wishes to be the fastest smartest program on the mainframe and the system clock does this not by speeding Enzo up but by slowing everybody else wayyyy dowwwwnnnn
we are living in that episode of ReBoot where Enzo meets the system clock and wishes to be the fastest smartest program on the mainframe and the system clock does this not by speeding Enzo up but by slowing everybody else wayyyy dowwwwnnnn
WE ARE HELPING WE ARE HELPING
i thought that video was so funny, just like everyone else. watched it tons of times and made fucking magnet jokes just like this. all these years later i still don't really understand how magnets work lol
That music video led to a ton of smug response videos that actually failed to explain how magnets work, it was great.
(Specifically they would give a basic explanation of electromagnetism, without explaining how magnets get or retain their particular charge, which is like half the goddamn question -- you only get partial credit for incomplete answers!)
its a fun song to make fun of but for pure ignorant soundbite I always preferred "tide goes in, tide goes out. you can't explain that!"
I am reminded of the Internet legend that says if you retain your virginity for 30 years you become a wizard, so yes there is a lot of arcane might in those comments
Selection bias. Once you start getting laid, you move to the "Fuckbois" corner of the internet and you're not allowed to come back and talk to the incels anymore.
Phony magicians who have barely even read the Daodejing. It is sexual continence that a cultivator must practice. Other than that, sexual relations are actually a great source of jing.
If you don't jack off, the cum backs up into your brain and crystallizes into mana. Not many people know this.
No, this is revisionist nonsense. Do you even know the Way?
It's called 還精補腦 for a reason. Do you know what that means? Returning the jing (that's cum to you) to replenish the brain. Er wait sorry I just re-read what you said. Never mind, your interpretation is odd but is basically correct.
Hell's Paradise, an excellent manga/anime aside from being extremely misogynistic.
We are entering a brave new era of table knocking, quakery, seances, and generally buffoonery.
I hate trying to assess what llms are even doing. Half the people who know enough about llms and "ai" don't know anything about intelligence or language so they might have some kind of idea about what the math is doing, but they're obviously stuck in lala land when explaining what that means in terms of cognition, or even if the stupid things can in any way manipulate abstract symbols.
There are so many true believers, hucksters, truth seekers, snake oil salesmen, and wierdos. Now bing apparently has an integrated ai buddy and god knows what it does.
And i'm extremely skeptical and i want nothing to do with ai "art" , and i'm worried i'll get left behind as people jump on it and start building tools around it whether it works or not. : p
Half the people who know enough about llms and "ai" don't know anything about intelligence or language so they might have some kind of idea about what the math is doing, but they're obviously stuck in lala land when explaining what that means in terms of cognition
as my college proffessor on machine learning used to say "AI has literally nothing to say about cognition we sometimes use the language of cognition as a metaphor but it's not what we do here we're statistical modelers and anyone who thinks we have anything of value to contribute to neuroscience is an arrogant moron"
"machine learning" is one of the biggest buzzwords in academia right now. Oh you did some "physics-informed machine learning"? you mean you did some regression based off a governing equation? 🙄
I don't think it is truly sustainable, it is trained on existing art, and if art as a medium starts dying because of it, it will just train itself on other ai art, and will start to look stranger and less accurate. This is just another "techbros think that they can program a better version on an existing thing but don't bother to understand the fundamentals of that thing."
Right now it is rough for artists, because a lot of people don't see the point in hiring an artist to draw things when they could get an AI to make a "good enough" picture for free. But that is just a fad, and it is slowly fading now as people realise they aren't magic, and if you actually want something interesting or actually accurate to what you want, you need to still speak to a human.
it will just train itself on other ai art, and will start to look stranger and less accurate
if people understood that they are doing statistics they would realise how using predictions as a basis for future predictions is a terrible idea
The people behind this stuff have a lot of strange ideas about AI and "the singularity." They're too far gone to have anything but terrible ideas. The people making this have forgotten that this is just a statistical algorithm and not magic. So in a sense, they really are techpriests.
I'm not sure if some of them ever knew entirely possible that the people running the companies have no understanding of the technology involved
Like any good con, they just use a bunch of fancy words to make it seem way more impressive than it is, and like any con that goes too far, they start to believe their own hype and forget that they can't actually deliver what they promised.
it will just train itself on other ai art,
lol why would they knowingly use inbred training data when they can just use pre-2019 sets
You underestimate their smugness and belief that their techbro cult can create superior versions of everything in the human existence. They already use inbred training data on chatbots, they'll be using it for artbots soon enough.
Using a simple text prompt I can immediately generate any kind of image I want. It’s not that much different than a wizard casting a spell.
I just want to say that no, you absolutely can not do this. All you can do is designate parameters for image generations, and then when you get an image you can decide if it's "close enough" or not. If you don't get what I'm saying, try generating two pictures of the same character in different poses or outfits.
I honestly have trouble being mad at the non fash tech fetishists. The disempowering horrors of capitalism leave us desperate for salvation and technology is the one promise that capitalism has historically provided as a solution. That being said the solutions of technology under capitalism are usually implemented in some horrific monstrous way but it's still a solution. Like I wonder how many of these people would very gratefully join a social structure that both promised and delivered change in a prosocial way with or without widgets and gadgets.
The problem is that a lot of tech fetishists are at the least cryptofascists and it may be harder to reach those.
Isn't this just basically like saying engineers in the middle ages were wizards? I certainly couldn't craft a trebuchet to save my life, yet there are 'people who are designing a machine that can transport rocks from one place to another'; it's not much different than a wizard casting a teleportation spell!
At what point does wishful thinking just become silliness? I couldn't tell you how a thermostat works, but it doesn't mean it's a technomagick circuit that uses sigils and harnesses the power of mini-lightning to magically reduce or increase a room's temperature.
If this is the criteria, we've been at this stage of technology being indistinguishable from magic ever since man figured out how to make fire. It's not like they understood combustion. Heck, man discovering fire would've been the true age of technology being indistinguishable from magic as no one on the planet could give a scientific answer for why it works; today however you can talk to an AI engineer who knows exactly why AI works the way it does.
This is what happens when a society emphasises hyper-individualism and rampant anti-intellectualism. People adopt an attitude of "I don't know how to do that, so it must be some special secret/magic."
So when these guys see these AIs making an image of a generic anime girl that vaguely resembles the character they asked for, they are amazed and conclude that it must be real magic and not just a parlor trick. And like any good con artist, the people peddling this stuff really hype up the mysticism around it, trying to make it seem like some impossibly special thing and not just another algorithm. We need a technology Houdini to debunk all this nonsense.
conclude that it must be real magic and not just a parlor trick. And like any good con artist, the people peddling this stuff really hype up the mysticism around it, trying to make it seem like some impossibly special thing
Like I said elsewhere it's like the magicians of old Egypt again
We have magic stones inscribed with precise runes powered by captured lightning displaying this information across the world.
I can agree with you and still be in awe. It makes my user experience more awesome.
It gets more interesting when you avoid obfuscatory words like "magic", "rune", and "lightning" (in this context)
rune and lighting are fanciful but accurate. It is a marking on stone and metal with significant meaning and it is powered by lightingsubstance
it's all natural and rational but describing it poetically is cool and fine
I'm gonna sound a bit like my fundie mom here, but Harry Potter is evil lol. It liquified the brains of so many wonks and tech bros.
technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers.
putting together a breadboard with baby's first electronics project and calling it devil magic
The machines didn't get smarter we all just got way dumber
Yo this is just like my fucking Megami Tensei games!
oh shit oh fuck chatgpt just turned my dog into a fucking cerberus and my mom's dead.
